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Old 12-03-2014, 19:06   #1
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Why is it that people are experts on a subject

with which they have no training and no experience?

GNG and PI are in full swing with the No True Bill handed down in NYC today. "He wasn't resisting" is the rally cry, and there's even a guy that claims to have 34 years on the job before retiring saying the officers should have "talked" longer before going hands on.

I called BS, since anyone with 34 years on, was doing things "in the good ol' days" when officers beat the dog**** outta people who resisted. Of course, he coulda been a chief somewhere, but still....(No offense to our resident chief, of course).

I'll just say "Argh" and leave it at that.
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Old 12-03-2014, 19:29   #2
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Old 12-03-2014, 19:46   #3
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As already noted, on the internet anyone can claim any experience and expertise.
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Old 12-03-2014, 19:48   #4
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Oh, I know. And so many of them are so damn sure - but, ain't a single one of them put hands on someone...ever.
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Old 12-03-2014, 19:50   #5
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Again, they should have shot for the leg.

Or sprayed him with Silly String.
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Old 12-03-2014, 19:52   #6
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If these dumbass talking heads on CNN had their way, any time there was an incident and police were called in, the perp should be given a hot meal, a pack of cigarettes, and a comfy couch to lounge on for hours so he could convince the officers that he's done nothing wrong.
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Old 12-03-2014, 20:09   #7
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I posted this in another thread in reply to wprebeck.

Would it be safe to say the person being arrested determines the level of force applied in affecting the arrest?

Don't resist, no force. Resist, force will be incrementally applied to overcome the demonstrated resistance.

Am I understanding this right? I am new to the LEO agency in which I am sworn, so I don't know what I don't know.

What is so difficult to understand about that? Seems pretty simple to me.

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Old 12-03-2014, 20:40   #8
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The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude.


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...Or sprayed him with Silly String.
That is the funniest thing I've read all week!
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People watch enough cop shows on tv and movies and then get their dose of legal knowledge from People's Court or Judge Judy, along with whatever they are told by their neighbor who used to go to college with a guy who has a cousin that worked for a lawyer... and bam, instant Law and Law Enforcement expert!
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The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude.


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with which they have no training and no experience?

GNG and PI are in full swing with the No True Bill handed down in NYC today. "He wasn't resisting" is the rally cry, and there's even a guy that claims to have 34 years on the job before retiring saying the officers should have "talked" longer before going hands on.

I called BS, since anyone with 34 years on, was doing things "in the good ol' days" when officers beat the dog**** outta people who resisted. Of course, he coulda been a chief somewhere, but still....(No offense to our resident chief, of course).

I'll just say "Argh" and leave it at that.
While i agree with you, including your perspective on this situation, I think pretty much everyone in every field deals with this to some degree. Only difference is your field gets the most media commentary, and gng discussion ...
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