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Old 01-14-2007, 07:47   #26
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I am an SPSC 234.
What's the date on that? I'm not up on class numbers. We might have had some of our folks there if I can recall who went and what dates. We were always sending folks to about every kind of class out there.
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Old 01-14-2007, 09:55   #27
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No one from ISP in my class.

It was Sept-Dec 06 (very recent). The only trooper we had was from Ohio.

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Old 01-14-2007, 10:45   #28
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No one from ISP in my class.
It was Sept-Dec 06 (very recent). The only trooper we had was from Ohio.
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With those dates I wouldn't have known who would have gone even if we would have sent anyone. I'm away from it now.
Anyway, CONGRATS and welcome back. Now you can relax after all that studying and paperwork. That's one place where you definitely earn your paper.
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Old 01-15-2007, 18:09   #29
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Living in Chicago and working for CCSheriff, I can clarify this question. Handguns (assault rifles, .50cal, pistol grips, .30cal, and other high caliber rounds also) are illegal in chicago, you can own a handgun outside of chicago, you cannot own or buy a weapon without a FOID card in IL (We dont want convicts, drug users, mentally challenged, illegals with guns), and you must register your weapon every year if u live in Chicago.

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Old 01-15-2007, 18:20   #30
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One correction on last post. If you live in Chicago the only way you can own a handgun is if you are law enforcement, correctional, armed security, armoured guard, shop/store owner, and I might be missing something. That does not mean they can carry their weapon only sworn law enforcement.
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Old 01-19-2007, 23:40   #31
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One other thing about the FOID card that is often forgotten/missed:

When the law was instituted, the argument for it (by the anti-gun crowd) was: "we're not registering your guns.... (we're registering all the people who have guns, hehehe...)"

Yes, in the People's Kommunist State of Illinois (full name of state), the liberals have managed to create a gun-owners registration rather than a gun registration. It makes more sense really... Easier to keep track of for when they come looking for the guns. Don't need to look up NICS checks or laboriously go through each gun registration... You just pull the FOID list and go to each address.

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Old 01-27-2007, 14:19   #32
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Living in Chicago and working for CCSheriff, I can clarify this question. Handguns (assault rifles, .50cal, pistol grips, .30cal, and other high caliber rounds also) are illegal in chicago, you can own a handgun outside of chicago, you cannot own or buy a weapon without a FOID card in IL (We dont want convicts, drug users, mentally challenged, illegals with guns), and you must register your weapon every year if u live in Chicago.
I believe handguns are also illegal in Oak Park and Evanston for non-LE.
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Old 01-31-2007, 14:50   #33
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(We dont want convicts, drug users, mentally challenged, illegals with guns)
Now what puzzles me is that after acquiring a FOID I still have to have a mandatory wait when buying firearms. You'd think a FOID would streamline the process, since a background check has already been performed. Obviously that is not it's intent.
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I'm not trying to fan any flames here.....

I live in a far west suburb of Chicagoland area, (Dupage County) and I regularly go to visit to Midwest Guns in Cook County (Lyons, IL www.midwestguns.com), because of their decent selections on firearms, decent pricing, and indoor range (one of the few around).

Midwest, being in Cook County) will NOT allow any "assault weapons" into the building, but handguns are legal and as a matter of fact, is exactly where I purchased my first handgun.

Cook county does have an "assault weapons ban" that pretty closely mirrors the 1994 Clinton AWB. But, handguns are allowed except within Chicago "city limits". And, as stated, there are a few other cities that have a ban on handguns as well.

As for transporting handguns through city limits, here is an excerpt from the law:

ILLINOIS: A nonresident is permitted to transport a firearm provided it is unloaded, enclosed in a case, andnot easily accessible. A nonresident may possess an operable firearm for licensed hunting, or at a Departmentof Law Enforcement recognized target shooting range or gun show.

CHICAGO: Chicago requires all firearms possessed in the city to be registered. Handguns notpreviously timely registered in Chicago cannot be registered. Oak Park, Evanston, MortonGrove, Highland Park, Wilmette and Winnetka prohibit the possession of a handgun.Firearms may be transported under the general rule through Chicago for lawful recreationalfirearm−related activities.

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Old 02-03-2007, 16:00   #35
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One correction on last post. If you live in Chicago the only way you can own a handgun is if you are law enforcement, correctional, armed security, armoured guard, shop/store owner, and I might be missing something. That does not mean they can carry their weapon only sworn law enforcement.
Pertaining to shop/store owners, they can carry in their stores, correct? Examples I have seen are Gunworld, Shore Galleries, etc.
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Old 02-14-2007, 16:43   #36
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I HATE CHICAGO AND ILLINOIS! THE LAST COMMUNIST STATE IN THE UNION! I WISH IT WOULD FALL OFF THE FACE OF THE COUNTRY!

I'M A COP IN TEXAS AND I'M FROM CHICAGO!!! I HAVE FAMILY IN CHICAGO!!! I MAY HAVE TO MOVE TO SOUTHERN ILLINOIS DUE TO MY MILITARY WIFE AND I AM DREADING IT!!!

I HAVE TONS OF GUNS AND NO RECEIPTS OR PAPERWORK FOR ANY OF THEM! I DO NOT PLAN TO BE A COP IN ILLINOIS, AS I HAVE NO DESIRE TO PROTECT AND DEFEND ANYONE IN A STATE THAT DOES NOT EVEN ALLOW ITS CITIZENS THE PROTECTION OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION!!!

I GUESS WHEN I SHOW UP WITH ALL MY GUNS AND I TAKE A FEW MONTHS TO GET SETTLED AND MAYBE CHANGE MY LICENSE (ONLY IF I HAVE TO), THEN I'LL GET A STUPID FOID CARD. CAUSE YOU KNOW ALL THE GARBAGE THAT LIVES IN EAST ST. LOUIS HAS FOID CARDS AND FOLLOWS THE LAW AND NEVER, EVER COMMITS ANY CRIMES.

F.U. ILLIOIS!!!





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Old 02-15-2007, 07:20   #37
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I HATE CHICAGO AND ILLINOIS! THE LAST COMMUNIST STATE IN THE UNION!
Don't forget Wisconsin. No FOID but otherwise they're about identical.
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Old 04-13-2007, 19:26   #38
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Living in Chicago and working for CCSheriff, I can clarify this question. Handguns (assault rifles, .50cal, pistol grips, .30cal, and other high caliber rounds also) are illegal in chicago, you can own a handgun outside of chicago, you cannot own or buy a weapon without a FOID card in IL (We dont want convicts, drug users, mentally challenged, illegals with guns), and you must register your weapon every year if u live in Chicago.

Is the AWB in chicago or for all of cook country?
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Old 04-23-2007, 21:36   #39
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Is the AWB in chicago or for all of cook country?
awb is for chicago, and chicago has their own defenition of AW. Cook County has no ban, but some towns in the county do.
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New to the forums here and am just now starting to become more interested in 2nd amendment rights in relation to Illinois....Chicago in particular. I want to ask some questions, but would like to preface it by saying that this is completely hypothetical and purely to satisfy my curiosity.

Anyhow, after some discussion with a friend, I wonder if I don't completely understand the gun laws in Chicago and other municipalities such as Wilmette and Winnetka. If you are caught in possession of a handgun in either of these places, does it mean automatic jail time or just a hefty fine? I always thought jail, but after reviewing the popular handgun case involving the gentleman in Wilmette, all that happened to him was a $750 fine.

Furthermore, let's say you lived in Chicago, someone broke into your house and you defended yourself with a kitchen knife and the intruder was unfortunately killed. Can anything be held against you? It would be self defense, correct? So along those same lines, if you used a gun, it's still technically self defense, you just used a medium that happens to be illegal so you're problem would be the fact you had a gun when you shouldn't have, not so much the self defense issue (assuming that it was done by the "book" and such). If you look at Tank Johnson, he had I think 4 assault weapons and was only given a fine...granted a large one, but no jail time.

Does this make any sense?
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I thought Tank's house was outside of the "no gun zone". Isn't it in or near Gurnee. As far as I know, his offense was no FOID.

Outside of the immediate Chicago area we just have to deal with Illinois laws, draconian as they may be.
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That's a good point...I forgot he lived outside of Chicago. I should also mention to assume that we're talking about a FOID card holder. You can at least look at the man in Wilmette...he didn't even have a FOID and still was only given a fine. I guess what I'm asking is, would it be the same in Chicago?
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He's been arrested a few times and was convicted of a felony prior to his last arrest for firearms possession. Being that he is a convicted felon, it's illegal for him to own any firearms.

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I thought Tank's house was outside of the "no gun zone". Isn't it in or near Gurnee. As far as I know, his offense was no FOID.

Outside of the immediate Chicago area we just have to deal with Illinois laws, draconian as they may be.
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Old 04-26-2007, 15:48   #44
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Tank is in jail, should be coming out soon. Unfortunately IL law protects the criminals more than you and I. If someone happens to be in your house intruding, you have no right to harm him. He could be watching TV in your house sitting next to your daughter, and you cant do jack shi*! Now if suddenly he happens to have your kitchen knife in his hand and is attempting to harm someone or you, its showtime!

Illinois protects the criminals so much, they get away with murder. If someone breaks into your house and punches you and you detain him by punching his lights out, the cops will congratulate you but the criminals lawyer will probably have a lawsuit on you. The criminal will then get your house, car, and maybe wife.
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I don't believe that for a second...if someone intrudes into your house, how could anyone possibly hold you at fault. I mean, what the hell kind of people would have to be in a jury that convicts someone in that situation!?!??!

Also, check this out...my lawyer friend said this is current Chicago ordinance...
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I HATE CHICAGO AND ILLINOIS! THE LAST COMMUNIST STATE IN THE UNION! I WISH IT WOULD FALL OFF THE FACE OF THE COUNTRY!

I'M A COP IN TEXAS AND I'M FROM CHICAGO!!! I HAVE FAMILY IN CHICAGO!!! I MAY HAVE TO MOVE TO SOUTHERN ILLINOIS DUE TO MY MILITARY WIFE AND I AM DREADING IT!!!

I HAVE TONS OF GUNS AND NO RECEIPTS OR PAPERWORK FOR ANY OF THEM! I DO NOT PLAN TO BE A COP IN ILLINOIS, AS I HAVE NO DESIRE TO PROTECT AND DEFEND ANYONE IN A STATE THAT DOES NOT EVEN ALLOW ITS CITIZENS THE PROTECTION OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION!!!

I GUESS WHEN I SHOW UP WITH ALL MY GUNS AND I TAKE A FEW MONTHS TO GET SETTLED AND MAYBE CHANGE MY LICENSE (ONLY IF I HAVE TO), THEN I'LL GET A STUPID FOID CARD. CAUSE YOU KNOW ALL THE GARBAGE THAT LIVES IN EAST ST. LOUIS HAS FOID CARDS AND FOLLOWS THE LAW AND NEVER, EVER COMMITS ANY CRIMES.

F.U. ILLIOIS!!!





OK. NOW I FEEL BETTER.

Dude, I live in Southern IL...its not as bad down here as up north....I personally am trying to get over into MO so I can have a few more rights.....if you are far enough south u should consider living in western KY they are like a little TX...

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did anyone look at that image I posted? check it out...what are your thoughts on it?
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did anyone look at that image I posted? check it out...what are your thoughts on it?
Old news. Chicago keeps taking steps towards a total firearms ban, although the recent ruling on DC might give them pause for thought.
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so is it true? can you legally own a handgun in your home in Chicago if you're part of a shooting club?

Also, all of illinois let's you own a handgun in your home, but in regards to any municipalities that ban guns, you'd only be subject to their laws and repercussions, not anything from the state, right?
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so is it true? can you legally own a handgun in your home in Chicago if you're part of a shooting club?
Check the ordinances for Chicago at:
http://www.isp.state.il.us/foid/ordinances.cfm
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Also, all of illinois let's you own a handgun in your home, but in regards to any municipalities that ban guns, you'd only be subject to their laws and repercussions, not anything from the state, right?
The only state restriction to owning any firearm is the owner must possess a valid FOID card. If a municipality passes a more restrictive ordinance then any violation of that ordinance is a municipal matter, not state.
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