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03-15-2007, 10:17
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Originally posted by Lurk_n_Load
I bought the 1997 version new; I had previously ordered the 1980 edition at a cheap price but it arrived with mildew, so I had to toss it. This is a GREAT book to have. If SHTF, this will be more valuable than a dozen cases of ammo. (but have both, just in case!)
ETA: The 1997 edition contains virtually all the info that is in the 1981 version; I've compared them side by side.
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Thanks for the info :-)
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03-15-2007, 12:50
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1981 edition. Dirty cover but the pages are nearly mint. Appears unread. Slight yellowing. Too bad this isn't printed on acid-free paper to last longer.
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03-22-2007, 03:16
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04-15-2007, 10:00
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The zombie survival guide, by Max Brooks. Cause you never know....
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04-15-2007, 12:39
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04-15-2007, 17:33
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04-24-2007, 15:30
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Thank you, Sir. 
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05-05-2007, 06:33
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"THE ROAD" by Cormac McCarthy
Oh man! I just finished reading this post-apocalyptic fiction novel, and I have to say that it was phenomenal!
(This reviewer from Amazon sums it up best):
"The Road" is a work of stunning, savage, heartbreaking beauty. Set in the post-apocalyptic hell of an unending nuclear winter, Cormac McCarthy writes about a nameless man and his young son, wandering through a world gone crazy; bleak, cold, dark, where the snow falls down gray; moving south toward the coast, looking somewhere, anywhere, for life and warmth. Nothing grows in this blasted world; people turn into cannibals to survive. We don't know if we're looking at the aftermath of a nuclear war, or maybe an extinction level event -- an asteroid or a comet; McCarthy deliberately doesn't tell us, and we come to realize it doesn't matter anyway. Whether man or nature threw a wild pitch, the world is just as dead.
http://amazon.com/gp/product/0307387...681838-3066343
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05-07-2007, 17:01
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Books on Ranging targets?
Any suggestions for a good book for ranging targets using binoculars or standard objects in the environment? (ways other than a range finder?) Thank you!
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05-09-2007, 00:48
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REMOTE TRAVEL PLANNING & RESOURCE GUIDE
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05-09-2007, 17:28
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That's a pretty neat guide. I may just print parts of that out, and put it in the vehicle kits I gave to my sisters.
Thanks! 
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05-27-2007, 16:46
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Re: Books on Ranging targets?
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Originally posted by windplex
Any suggestions for a good book for ranging targets using binoculars or standard objects in the environment? (ways other than a range finder?) Thank you!
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I wrote this elsewhere, so I'll repost it here:
Well, I'm not an expert on long-range shooting, and the most I've ever shot with a rifle is 300 meters. However, I did learn a few things in tank gunnery.
The best way to estimate range is to use the hash marks on your binoculars or rifle optics. These hash marks measure off 1 "mil" (milli-radian) intervals. Basically, an object one meter tall will be almost exactly 1 mil high at 1000 meters. It you know the height of your target, you can figure out the distance. If you know the distance, you can figure out the height.
Equations:
Height in meters = H
Distance in kilometers = D
Mils on your binos = M
Basic Equation:
H / D = M
To solve for distance using a known height:
H / M = D
To solve for height using a known distance:
D * M = H
Let's make it really simple and use a tall man who is exactly 2 meters tall (approximate 6'7") as your target. He would be:
1 mil at 2000 meters
2 mils at 1000 meters
4 mils at 500 meters
8 mils at 250 meters
16 mils at 125 meters
Obviously, most men aren't this tall and you won't usually know the exact height of your target, so you have to guess. Here are a few more precise numbers if you want a better estimate:
2 mils at 880 meters - Average American male
2 mils at 820 meters - Average American female (or average North Korean male)
2 mils at 1200 meters - Abrams Tank
2 mils at 940 meters - Humvee
The math is simple enough that you should be able to do it in your head, and after you do it for a while, it'll become instinctive. If you have some trouble working this out in your head, there are shortcuts. For instance, my tank commander just estimated for a 2-meter object, then adjusted to get a decent estimate (minus 10% for a somewhat tall man, minus 20% for a somewhat short woman, etc.).
This method gets you a very quick and fairly accurate estimate of the actual distance to your target. Too easy.
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06-08-2007, 15:35
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06-24-2007, 00:12
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I highly recomend the book "Patriots Surviving The Coming Collapse" by James Wessly Rawles. It is basically a survival manual written as a novel. The first read is for the pure enjoyment of the plot. It will keep you up at night! The second read is for the survial info and links. I used a yellow highlighter. Every page has useful info.
Here's a link: http://www.rawles.to/patriots.htm
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06-25-2007, 11:05
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Free books of interest--public domain etc.
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06-25-2007, 11:23
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Stumbled on this listing of books last night: Country Living Grain Mill - Cook Books
Cookin' with Home Storage - Vicki Tate
The Amazing Wheat Book - Learta Moulton
Basic Preparedness - Richard Mankamyer
Laurel's Kitchen Bread Book - Laurel Robertson with Carol Flinders & Bronwen Godfrey
The Bread Builders: Hearth Loaves and Masonry Ovens - Danial Wing and Alan Scott
The BackYard Berry Book - Stella Otto
Build Your Own Earth Oven - Kilko Denzer
Four Season Harvest - Eliot Coleman
Preserving Food: without Freezing or Canning - By The Gardeners & Farmers of Terre Vivante with foreword by Eliot Coleman
Seet to Seed - Suzanne Ashworth
Garden Seed Inventory - Kent Whealey and Joanne Thuente
Whole Foods Companion - Dianne Onstad
There may be some repeats here but a few caught my eye:
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Preserving Food: without Freezing or Canning
Typical Books about Preserving garden produce nearly always assume that modern kitchen gardeners will boil or freeze their vegetables and fruits. Yet here is a book that goes back to the future- celebrating traditional but little-known French techniques for storing and preserving fresh edibles in ways that maximize flavor and nutrition.
Translated into English for the first time, this book deliberately ignores freezing and high-temperature canning in favor of methods that are superior because they are less costly and more energy-efficient. Tells how to use traditional techniques to preserve you food with salt, oil, sugar, alcohol, vinegar, drying and cold storage and lactic acid preservation.
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Seet to Seed
This complete guide to seed-saving techniques covers 160 different vegetables and includes detailed instructions on how to grow, harvest, dry, clean and store your own seeds! 228 pages, b&w interior photos
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Four Season Harvest
Keep on harvesting after summer’s end! If you love the joys of eating home garden vegetables, but always thought those joys had to stop at the end of summer, this book is for you. Coleman shows how North American gardeners can raise a wide variety of traditional winter vegetables in backyard cold frames and plastic-covered tunnel greenhouses without supplementary heat. 234 pages b&w illustrations & color photos.
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Actually, they all look decent.
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06-25-2007, 13:50
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Re: "THE ROAD" by Cormac McCarthy
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Originally posted by Primalscream
Oh man! I just finished reading this post-apocalyptic fiction novel, and I have to say that it was phenomenal!
(This reviewer from Amazon sums it up best):
"The Road" is a work of stunning, savage, heartbreaking beauty. Set in the post-apocalyptic hell of an unending nuclear winter, Cormac McCarthy writes about a nameless man and his young son, wandering through a world gone crazy; bleak, cold, dark, where the snow falls down gray; moving south toward the coast, looking somewhere, anywhere, for life and warmth. Nothing grows in this blasted world; people turn into cannibals to survive. We don't know if we're looking at the aftermath of a nuclear war, or maybe an extinction level event -- an asteroid or a comet; McCarthy deliberately doesn't tell us, and we come to realize it doesn't matter anyway. Whether man or nature threw a wild pitch, the world is just as dead.
http://amazon.com/gp/product/0307387...681838-3066343
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AMAZING BOOK!
A man and his 8-year-old son are walking south through a burned-out, ash-covered landscape. They have a shopping cart, binoculars, a revolver with three rounds, and a dozen cans of food. They have hundreds of miles to go and it's snowing.
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06-26-2007, 03:08
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Fiction list
I read The Road, but didn't care much for it. I generally prefer the post-apocalyptic stories that cover the period leading up to and right after whatever disaster happens instead of later. Anyway, I've been collecting this type of book for about 30 years, and have collected quite a few of them. Here's my list of the ones I have in my library:
48 - James Herbert
8.4 - Peter Hernon
A Hunter's Fire - Floyd D. Dale
Aftermath - Charles Sheffield
Aftermath - LeVar Burton
After the Bomb(series) - Gloria D. Miklowitz
After the Rain - John Bowen
Airship Nine - Thomas H. Block
Alas Babylon - Pat Frank
Amerika - Brauna E. Pouns
A Place Called Attar - J.D. Belanger
Arc Light - Eric L. Harry
Armageddon(short stories) - David Drake & Billie Sue Mosiman
Ashes, Ashes - Rene Barjavel
Atlas Shrugged - Ayn Rand
Breakdown - William W. Johnstone
Cold Creek Cash Store - Russell Hill
Dark Advent - Brian Hodge
Dark December - Alfred Coppel
Death on a Warm Wind - Douglas Warner
Death Wind - William C. Heine(also published as The Last Canadian)
Defiance(also published as Vandenberg) - Oliver Lange
Denver is Missing - D.F. Jones
Doomsday Plus Twelve - James D. Forman
Domain - James Herbert
Down to a Sunless Sea - David Graham
Earth Abides - George R. Stewart
Emergence - David R. Palmer
Ende - Anton-Andreas Guha
Famine - Graham Masterton
Firebrats(series) - Barbara & Scott Siegel
First Angel - Ed Mann
Free Flight - Douglas Terman
A Gift Upon the Shore - M.K. Wren
Heartland - David Hagberg
I, Martha Adams - Pauline Glen Winslow
I Am Legend - Richard Matheson
Ice! - Arnold Federbush
Ill Wind - Kevin J. Anderson & Doug Beason
In Iron Years - Gordon R. Dickson
Into the Forest - Jean Hegland
Invasion - Eric L. Harry
Jenny, My Diary
Jericho Falls - Christopher Hyde
Level 7 - Mordecai Roshwald
Living is Forever - J. Edwin Carter
Long Loud Silence - Wilson Tucker
Long Voyage Back - Luke Rhinehart
Lucifer's Hammer - Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
Malevil - Robert Merle
Mister Touch - Malcolm Bosse
No Blade of Grass - John Christopher
Not This August - C.M. Kornbluth
Nuclear War(short stories) - Edited by Gregory Benford & Martin Greenberg
Omega Sub(series) - J.D. Cameron
On the Beach - Nevil Shute
One Just Man - James Mills
Out of the Ashes(series) - William Johnstone
Pandemic - Geoffrey Simmons
Path of the Pale Horse - Paul Fleishman
Patriots - James Wesley, Rawles
Power Play - Kenneth M. Cameron
Pulling Through - Dean Ing
Rankin: Enemy of the State - John Osier
Resurrection Day - Brendan DuBois
Shelter - Dan Ljoka
Some Will Not Die - Algis Budrys
Storm Rider(series) - Robert Baron
Survival 2000(series) - James McPhee
Survival Margin - David Graham
Survivors - John Nahmlos
Swan Song - Robert R. McCammon
The 40 Minute War - Janet & Chris Morris
The Big One - Kevin E. Ready
The Black Death - Gwyneth Cravens and John S. Marr
The City, Not Long After - Pat Murphy
The Day of the Star Cities - John Brunner
The Day of the Triffids - John Wyndham
The End of the World(short stories) - Donald A. Wollheim
The Freeman - Jerry Ahern & Sharon Ahern
The Iron Rain - Donald Malcolm
The Kraken Awakes - John Wyndham
The Land of Empty Houses - John L. Moore
The Last Ranger - Craig Sargent
The Last Ship - William Brinkley
The Long Tomorrow - Leigh Brackett
The Long Winter - John Christopher
The Man in the High Castle - Philip K. Dick
The New Madrid Run - Michael Reisig
The Plague - Albert Camus
The Postman - David Brin
The Rest Must Die - Richard Foster
The Rift - Walter J. Williams
The Sheep Look Up - John Brunner
The Stand - Stephen King
The Steel, The Mist, and the Blazing Sun - Christopher Anvil
The Survivalist (series) - Jerry Ahern
The Turner Diaries - Andrew MacDonald
The Wild Shore - Kim Stanley Robinson
Those Who Favor Fire - Marta Randall
Time Capsule - Mitch Berman
Tomorrow! - Philip Wylie
Vector - Henry Sutton
War Day - Whitley Streiber and James Kunetka
When the City Stopped - Joan Phipson
When the Almond Tree Blossoms - David Aikman
Where Late the Sweet Birds Sang - Kate Wilhelm
Wolf and Iron - Gordon R. Dickson
Wrath of God - Robert Gleason
Z for Zachariah - Robert C. O'brien
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06-26-2007, 21:56
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Re: Fiction list
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I've been collecting this type of book for about 30 years, and have collected quite a few of them. Here's my list of the ones I have in my library:
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Couple of your favorites from that list?
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06-27-2007, 00:14
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It's always tough narrowing it down to my favorites. Lucifer's Hammer is one of the top ones(I've been waiting for them to make a movie of it). I've always liked Alas Babylon, Day of the Triffids, Long Voyage Back and No Blade of Grass.
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07-06-2007, 12:31
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Quote:
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It's always tough narrowing it down to my favorites. Lucifer's Hammer is one of the top ones(I've been waiting for them to make a movie of it). I've always liked Alas Babylon, Day of the Triffids, Long Voyage Back and No Blade of Grass.
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Thanks. I'm gonna see if I cant get some of those online.
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"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." Thomas Jefferson (The Federal Reserve is a private bank.)
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07-06-2007, 14:20
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Some of them are out of print now, but you can find copies of them through www.addall.com a book search site.
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08-08-2007, 09:34
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The Gift of Fear, by Gavin de Becker
This is a nonfiction book about avoiding becoming a victim of violent crime and dealing with it if you find yourself the target of one. Very interesting book, and must reading for anybody interested in survival. The author interviewed many people who survived attacks and talks a lot about our intuition which often warns us about "something being wrong" with a situation, but which we often ignore because of various reasons, many of which aren't good reasons.  Some women, for example, ignore those warnings in some situations because they don't want to make a scene, and they end up getting raped or killed.  Isn't making a scene better than that?
Just finished another fiction story to add to the list, too. It's A Gift Upon the Shore, by M.K. Wren. Not too bad a book, but it's got that one little detail that annoys me about a lot of modern stories and movies. Any time they mention survivalists in them, they have to be bad guys(generally reveals a bit of a "liberal" bias on the author's part). Means they've fallen for the media stereotype of the camo-clad, gun-toting survivalist. Like the Holnists in The Postman.
Still, it wasn't too bad a book. I've added it to my list and my collection.
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