Any news on the G20L slides from LWD?

Mr. Big · 01-31-2007, 15:27

Any updates?

Thx!

Rigormootis · 02-05-2007, 15:49

As I understand it - they are long gone... But, since I missed this boat yet again, if anyone has one they no longer want, please send me an email.
Thanks.
moorecd@hotmail.com

ColoradoGlocker · 02-05-2007, 18:56

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Gary1911A1 · 02-06-2007, 06:16

I certainly think there is a market for them. The question comes down to price and how many people want to pay it. If he could come up with a price people might be willing to pre order with a deposit if they felt it wasn't going to be like the Bren Ten.

Rigormootis · 02-06-2007, 14:28

OOps - Sorry guys/Steve. Thanks.

Moondo · 02-12-2007, 11:43

I have been trying to get a G20 Longslide for the past year and a half through Lone Wolf. It appears that the cost of machining the parts (in the neighborhood of $15,000 to $20,000) is scaring the distributors and machinists from producing them. I was told by one manufacture, that they would consider production if an order of 50 was placed and prepaid. Maybe we could get a list together from this group and make a proposal.... Moondo

Los Suenos · 02-12-2007, 12:05

#1, I'm in.

Moondo · 02-12-2007, 12:07

All Right, I guess I'm #2 then....

Vulcanese · 02-12-2007, 13:49

1) How much per unit are we talking about here?

2) Will the longslide include buried Bo-Mars?

I might be #3 based on the answers to these two questions.

Rigormootis · 02-12-2007, 13:50

#3

***saspic*** · 02-12-2007, 13:58

I am definitely #4. I was told they would cost around $550 with sights included. I am okay with that, but I don't think they could really go much higher.
That's about the cost of a new GLOCK 20 with frame, barrel, and everything.

Moondo · 02-12-2007, 14:17

when I was talking to these companies I was trying to have one single slide made without sight cuts. I believe it will take a list of people that are committed to the project before a company would be willing to give us a price. Although, As stated in a previous post it can't be too much more than the $549.00 that was charged for the batch from Germany. This has to be cheap enough for the consumer as well as profitable for the company willing to take it on. Moondo

Masque · 02-12-2007, 14:47

That's silly. If there are enough of us, why wouldn't we order direct from the German manufacturer? The idea of a retailer doing that is that they assume the risk of a large purchase - if we have enough purchases, we don't need that kind of assistance. We save money, they don't have the hassle of having to risk/order/collect/ship/profit, and everybody wins. At least in some way.

If they want to gauge interest and order earlier than we could as a group, then that sounds great too. I'd pay a little more to have one earlier. But the "We have to wait for the retailer to have them made, and we have to have X orders for them to make them" seems a little silly unless they want 5 orders out of a minimum batch of ten, or similar.

In other words: GROUP BUY!

Moondo · 02-12-2007, 15:21

That's exactly what I'm saying, In order for this to work we will need to take a list of committed people to the manufacturer and say here are at least 50 people that are willing to spend around $500.00 per slide. The manufacturer at that point realizes he has no risk and isn't fronting the $15,000.00 set up costs. *Side note* I believe the German company was contacted by LWD to make another batch of slides including the G20's that are advertised in their catalog and it fell through. Again, I believe if we want to ever see the possibility of seeing longslide 20's is with a group buy.

FlyinBrian · 02-12-2007, 17:19

Count me in!

mrgrinch · 02-12-2007, 18:15

I'll cough up the cash too.

Mr. Big · 02-12-2007, 20:34

I definately want one, but I'd prefer it with the factory sight cut.

DavidinSA · 02-12-2007, 21:29

I will buy one.

Maybe we could have a sticky list of those that are serious about buying one.
I would probably prefer the factory sight cuts in the slide but will order either way.
If these were CNC machined, which they will be for cost, then it might be possible to obtain the programming by another machine shop to make them. Then setup costs would be fairly inexpensive.
If we get a large enough list of buyers, we could then start looking into it more.

thoughts?

david

***MakeMineA10mm*** · 02-12-2007, 23:15

Well, with the snow storm hitting us tomorrow, I'll try to call Glock, Inc. and talk to a guy I know there to see if there's a snowball's chance in he!! of Glock making them...

ColoradoGlocker · 02-13-2007, 00:02

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DavidinSA · 02-13-2007, 06:44

ColoradoGlocker,

Do you know if JR is going to make it a dedicated 10mm or a conversion?
He might be able to sell more if it was for the 45 and then we used a conversion barrel for the 10mm.
Like you did with the others.

David

Rigormootis · 02-13-2007, 07:22

Based on my phone con with JR 2 days ago, both a G20 and a G21 longslide are planned - with standard sight cuts and standard front serrations. SO, if all goes well with their current manufacturer, those of us who want to make a .45/10mm combo pistol (with a .45/10mm conversion bbl & ejector) will get another chance...and those of use who are looking for a G20 longslide (convertible of course via barrel swap to .40/.357sig/9x23/9x25...) will also get the goods. He mentioned that they are still looking to mid/late in the year though...

Moondo · 02-13-2007, 08:20

I have been in contact with Dan at LWD for the past year and a half calling every month or so. I think they are getting the same story that I got when talking to the machinists at Caspian, KKM Precision, Bar-Sto, and S&J Customs. The initial startup costs are at least $15,000.00 Kevin at KKM thought about it a little then said he would not touch a project like this for even $25,000.00! I believe any distributor will have to question whether or not they are willing to place a $15,000.00 chunk of cash down hoping there is going to be a market for longslides. Any way you look at it we have to show somebody there is a market. I believe a sticky is an excellent idea, once we have enough individuals that will commit to buying one we can find a manufacturer that will make them. MakeMinea10mm do you think you would have more power with Glock if you had a list of 50-60 people willing to buy them? Moondo

Mik · 02-13-2007, 10:14

i'm definately in for a 20L.

Masque · 02-13-2007, 10:46

So - wait. Why is the setup cost so high? It's been set up once before, right? Can't we get them to make -more- of the first batch?