[NoJoy]

JR is the G21T slide available "bull nosed" as an option? I see on the LWD site that the slide is offered; how much for the entire upper? I emailed KKM and they said they would cut the barrel to 5.32" so the barrel issue is solved.

[JR]

We have G21T slides with the standard nose and a bull nose. Your choice! We also have 5.32 barrels..... there never was a problem?

[Quarterbore]

I assume we won't see this until after the 2nd anniversary of this thread. It's hard to imagine this much interest in a product for going on two years and yet it is still a product that nobody can buy.

How hard can it be to understand that this is a product that does not exist AND it is a logical product that people want to buy?

Seems crazy to me

[JR]

The 21T & 21L are a reality. The 20T & 20L will soon become reality.

The 20 series slides were first on the list for production however are/were delayed. This is because the first runs of the 20 slides showed need for improvement.
The 21 series slides were second for production however easiest to modify using the information gathered from the 20 prototypes. They were indeed modified and run. This is why they are now first.

Are you confused? Then stop trying to understand and go to your room and pout! You will never understand production problems!

I am amazed at the number of complaints regarding "wait time". If Lone Wolf had not taken on this project from the beginning (read: all the way back to the original G21 six inch slide from Oberland) this reality (G21T, 21L, 20T, 20L) would only be a CONCEPT!

[Clarkbar]

Originally Posted by NoJoy

JR is the G21T slide available "bull nosed" as an option? I see on the LWD site that the slide is offered; how much for the entire upper? I emailed KKM and they said they would cut the barrel to 5.32" so the barrel issue is solved.

JR,

Could we get pix of the bull-nose G21T slide?

Also, will you be offering the 20L slides with the bull-nose treatment?

Thanks!

[Quarterbore]

Originally Posted by JR

Are you confused? Then stop trying to understand and go to your room and pout! You will never understand production problems!

Let's see, two years and I will assume your company takes say 15-days off a year. That would be 490 working days or 3920-open business hours when this project could have been promoted. My point is that there clearly is interest in this product and during this time this product could have been developed if it was a priority and the assumption has to be that this is not a priority of your company.

Sure, production problems happen but in 2-years time I dare say a company with proper tools like you have could make something like this.

The Glock 21 longslides are great but we are in this thread as most of us here really want a Glock 20 longslide which as I said is still a product that has never been made and it is the the reason many of us faithfully check this thread month after month for an update and hope that these will be made and sold.

You are frustrated from the harrasment as we say time and time again we want these, we are frustrated as we want this product so baddly and their clearly is not a priority to bring these to market!

I am here as I want to buy but my confidence sure is not solid that I will see it.

[NoJoy]

Thanks JR!

[saspic]

I'm still on board. But to just steel myself, which is meant to come out first, the G20L slides or the G20T slides? I believe I am up for both either way.

[Los Suenos]

I'm not dissing LWD because I have dealt with JR personally on the phone and they do have good service. What I want to know is why LWD 10mm barrels are $15 more than any other caliber barrel? Is it because you know Glock 10mm chambers are sloppy and more 10mm shooters reload than shooters of other calibers? Is it because this thread is two years old and one way or another you'll get back at us for complaining? Just wondering why we are forced to pay a premium is all. Thanks for enlightening me and other 10 Ringers.

http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=4868

http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=4815

[VN350X10]

I put together one of the 45/10 conversions for a customer, lots of messing around & tuning, lots of load tinkering as far as oal, etc. which changes with bullet shape, weight & nose configuration.
Only thing I never changed was the spring weight, as the customer wanted a semi auto he could hunt hogs & deer with, so ALL loads were high end.
The gun shoots at an acceptable level of reliability (98+%) so it's O.K. for hunting, but for CCW, he shoots & carries a mostly stock G20.
Double Tap ammo gave us the fewest problems in the longslide compared to any other factory ammo. Wish I would have had a batch of OLD Norma 200 gr. for comparison, I think that they would approach 100% in the conversion.

uncle albert

[Mik]

still looking forward to buying both slide configurations! thanks JR!

[Davis]

JR

I too am looking forward to the G20L and G20T
I have 2 G20's that would love some accessories for

Question..on your webpage it states for the FGR frames (aka 3rd gen)

Why not the non FGR (aka 2nd gen lowers )?

[BlackBelt]

Thanks JR. I appreciate the update. I owned my own manufacturing business for awhile, so I know production/R&D issues can be a hassle. I appreciate your doing what you do.
Thanks again.

[.45Super-Man]

Regardless of the wait, I'll be ordering a complete G20L upper. I'd be willing to bet that those who've cursed and sworn the most, will be the first ones to order theirs.

[SC-Texas]

I'm still patiently waiting!

[ampdog]

Forgive me if I missed this from earlier in the thread, but will the G20L slide be available without the open top (compensated)?

[saspic]

Well, that's been a topic of debate. JR says it's necessary to ensure reliability with softer loads. Some of us have countered that anyone who wanted softer loads would already be shooting a G24 or G35, but it seems most of the slides will have the cutout.
He's hinted that a few might not for us blowhards (guilty as charged! )

[Quarterbore]

And I expect if they announce they have 20 without the cut and 200 with the cut their phones will ring off the hook from those of us that do not want the lightened slide while they others will stay in inventory for a while.

I know I have no interested in a chop-top G-20 Longslide

[jp3975]

Originally Posted by Los Suenos

Just want to remind everyone here that this is a much better gun if you're buying it for hunting or long range plinking. Way more accurate and all kinds of scopes and red dots can be mounted. I have one and it will out shoot any Glock any day. 6.5" of barrel, not 4 3/4" like a 6" Glock barrel.


http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...-1&isFirearm=Y

For that price I'd rather get a .500

[Los Suenos]

Originally Posted by jp3975

For that price I'd rather get a .500

The ammo cost is insane if you reload or not. I'd get a BMG before I bought a .500. Neither is worth **it for my needs. I've got plenty of 44's. To me, 41's are a joke as is anything over a 44. I like 357's and 10mm's. To each his own I suppose. 500's are pretty worthless IMO. Have fun with your's.

[DavidinSA]

I appreciate what JR has done for us.
My life has been in research, prototype development, reverse engineering, NASA, military etc. and it always amazed me how the individuals with the least experience knew the most about how long it should take to develop an item or to build a product.
My hat is off to JR for even attempting to supply me with a product that I would like when no one else has. It will save me a ton of time and money since I was already halfway through the drawings to manufacture my own slide when he announced the project.
I am happy to wait for the savings in time.

Thanks JR.

David

[jp3975]

Originally Posted by Los Suenos

The ammo cost is insane if you reload or not. I'd get a BMG before I bought a .500. Neither is worth **it for my needs. I've got plenty of 44's. To me, 41's are a joke as is anything over a 44. I like 357's and 10mm's. To each his own I suppose. 500's are pretty worthless IMO. Have fun with your's.

I dont have one...I just meant that for the price on the revolver you mentioned I'd rather get the .500. I guess I'm just a sucker for the most powerful production handgun in the world;p They're not worthless though. If you're hunting large game it would be fairly useful.

[Clarkbar]

Originally Posted by Quarterbore

And I expect if they announce they have 20 without the cut and 200 with the cut their phones will ring off the hook from those of us that do not want the lightened slide while they others will stay in inventory for a while.

I know I have no interested in a chop-top G-20 Longslide

Q, you and I are on the same sheet of music. I don't care if I need to go into hock, I will have one of the full-weight G20L slides from JR!!

Once I have that slide, I'm going to have my Oberland Arms slide given the ARS "nose job" and engraved with Glock 21L AUSTRIA 45 Auto and my frame's S/N (with the S/N on the KKM barrel as well).

I will have to get my Bar-Sto 10mm barrel fitted down to fit the LW G20L slide, but that shouldn't be too much of a problem . . . then, I'll need to get another G20/21 frame for the new slide!

[ampdog]

Originally Posted by saspic

Well, that's been a topic of debate. JR says it's necessary to ensure reliability with softer loads. Some of us have countered that anyone who wanted softer loads would already be shooting a G24 or G35, but it seems most of the slides will have the cutout.
He's hinted that a few might not for us blowhards (guilty as charged! )

Yeah, I don't want the cutout model either. I guess I will join the scramble for the solids when they come in.

[okent]

I have decided I will take whatever I can get.
Sold slide is my first choice followed by the cutout.
I will also be getting one of the G21T slides too.
Any recommendations on a barrel?
I am going to use the 20L for hunting so I would like something very accurate.
I shoot quite a bit and right now I am more accurate than the barrel in my G20.