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Old 02-08-2007, 11:21   #1
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Surplus Rifles

I dont get it.Bakit hinde umaabot ang surplus rifles na chinese, yugoslavian, russia at kung ano ano pa sa pilipinas?Ang dami sa states, mura pa $600-1000 ayos na.A friend here owns 40 assorted surplus rifles, dami pag pipiliian.Lugi ata tayo.
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Old 02-08-2007, 17:34   #2
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No market in the Philippines. Law allows only 22 and shotgun for long arms. Sure they can sell it but it will be under the table and the buyer will have to wait for the amnesty. Vendors will have a hard time bringing it in (legally).

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Old 02-08-2007, 22:53   #3
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Old 02-09-2007, 05:43   #4
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Ammos are hard to find if you have one in the Phil.
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Old 02-09-2007, 18:28   #5
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takot ang mga nasa itaas baka gamitin sa kanila magagalit pati uncle sam kasi lugi negosyo n'ya.
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Old 03-04-2007, 05:13   #6
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I thought gun club members could own rifles?

What about pistol caliber carbines submachine guns and rifles, are those banned too?

I've heard that in the states, chinese made sks rifles sell for as low as 150 us dollars. That's cheaper than many handguns!!


Dito sa atin kahit wala na mga russian, yugo or chinese made rifles, these use big powerful rifle ammo anyway.

Kahit puro mga .223 m-16 caliber rifles lang pwede na yun, mas malayo pa nga ang range e, and armscor here produces the .223 round locally, so supply won't be a problem, and the cost would probably be lower too.

Anybody here buddies with the president or the first gentleman? maybe you can get the pres. to sign an eo legalizing pistol caliber carbines and rifles and .223 rifles.
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Old 03-04-2007, 05:53   #7
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surplus rifles

It is not against the law for civilians to own Hi-Power(Any caliber with more power than the .22rimfires is considered HiPower) rifles here in the Philippines as as it is embodied in Section 2 of E.O. 194 signed by Pres. Estrada in 2000, however, the approval of licenses applied for such HiPower rifles is so selective by the Chief-PNP in Crame that the misinformation about HiPower rifles being sold and licensed only to men in law enforcement and the military has been generally accepted as true even by the gun dealers themselves.
If not for the constraint in license approvals, there is a good market here for surplus rifles from China, Yugo, Russia considering that a brand new AK47 from China will cost you 40K Php...a surplus AK/SKS/RPK/Dragunov/Simonov/Nagant etc depending on condition would be much lower... some gun dealers sell surplus/used Beretta 92s from Italy at only 19K Php.
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Old 03-04-2007, 06:50   #8
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Do they consider this as a high powered rifle?

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It uses .224 ammo.

Its not a real rifle. Its a replacement for handguns.

But i guess it wouldn't matter, its too expensive. Though i hope the chinese make copies, that's one sure fire way for the prices to go down.

I'd love to have an easy to control full auto PDW like that.
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Old 03-04-2007, 08:33   #9
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I've heard that in the states, chinese made sks rifles sell for as low as 150 us dollars. That's cheaper than many handguns!!
You must be referring to Yugo SKS and not Chinese. There is a ban on the Chinese made SKS so people will hold on to theirs.
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Old 03-04-2007, 08:50   #10
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Do they consider this as a high powered rifle?

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It uses .224 ammo.

Its not a real rifle. Its a replacement for handguns.

But i guess it wouldn't matter, its too expensive. Though i hope the chinese make copies, that's one sure fire way for the prices to go down.

I'd love to have an easy to control full auto PDW like that.
The P90 is a restricted FA because of its fullauto capability. Also the military issued 5.7x28mm cartridge is an AP round, so it's really meant for LEO use only.

It's not considered a high powered rifle, it's a submachine gun which is still illegal for normal gunowners to purchase...

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Old 03-04-2007, 10:09   #11
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You are screwed sa Pinas because you don't have a 2nd amendment and no NRA.
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Old 03-04-2007, 11:28   #12
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China is still making SKS, www.marstar.ca of Canada still imports them. it was believed by many here in the States CHina exported almost 2-3 million skss into the US market from 1980s to 90s . It is still cheap to get one . I even see them stock high in boxes at gunshows last dec. for $179 plus tax. I was tempted but I already have several.
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Old 03-04-2007, 12:23   #13
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Chinese SKS

http://sales.squirrelfirearms.com/sks/

My bad about the price.
Yes you can still get it at $150 or so.
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Old 03-04-2007, 14:21   #14
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$150 for a Chinese SKS. Can't beat that.
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Old 03-04-2007, 17:24   #15
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yup, depending on the condition. naglalaro between 100-150 usd. but it's a good weapon. very accurate and mild recoil lang. i've shot bowling pins from about 200 yards without a scope, 1 or 2 shots lang. yun nga lang super mahal ang ammo...about 22 usd for a box of 20. a dollar each putok, aray
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Old 03-04-2007, 17:45   #16
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Whoa, ang mahal naman ng ammo mo?
Don't you like Wolf?
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Old 03-04-2007, 19:12   #17
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yung ammo ninyo dyan Norinco brand 7.62 x 39 ba? wala yata dyan Wolf brand.
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Old 03-04-2007, 19:37   #18
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actually, winchester brand... binibili ko sa walmart...cheaper kasi doon kesa gunshop. minsan meron mura sa gun show, mga wolf brand or other imported na brand.
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Old 03-04-2007, 19:42   #19
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Whoa, ang mahal naman ng ammo mo?
Don't you like Wolf?
yun na ang pinakamura dito i think (walmart sells cheaper than most gun stores unless na sale sila). kaya kapag kinkalabit ko yung SKS, inay inay lang...malakas gumastos...hehehe pero accurate kaya nasisiyahan na rin dahil laging tumba ang target
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Old 03-04-2007, 19:51   #20
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Yung Wolf sa gun show ang pinakamura po, chief.

Siguro kung napunta kayo sa Reno gun show, nakikita niyo binibenta ang dami. Mahal yung Walmart.

Yung commie (Wolf, Barnaul, etc) ammo OK sa SKS.
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Old 03-04-2007, 19:56   #21
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What's the standard magazine capacity of the SKS? Here in Canada, it's 5 rounds. SKS are selling for CDN$139.00 from Marstar, but they're out of stock. Same with the Norinco NP29 (1911 in 9mm) which is very popular in IDPA. Ammo for the Norinco is also cheap. Marstar sells surplus Sellier and Bellot at CDN$189.95 per box of 1,120 rounds. http://www.marstar.ca/ammo-etc/am-surplus.shtm

Accessories (scope mounts) for the SKS: http://www.marstar.ca/ac-optics/mounts-semi.shtm
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Old 03-04-2007, 20:01   #22
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yup, nakita ko yung wolf pero binili ko 40 cal para sa G23 pero konti lang difference sa price ng winchester. syempre kung by bulk ang bibilin (1000-3000 rounds per ammo box) then talagang mura kahit na winchester pa.
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$200 US ung sks na un-issued, ung issued cheaper.10 rounds ung flush mounted, pero nakakuha dad ko ng mga detachable na 20 at 30 rounds.I like the accuracy of the SKS, ung ak di ko maitama, maybe its me though.

excuse the flyers someone shot my target, but thats actually 10 rounds from an sks
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Old 03-04-2007, 20:36   #24
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I have actually 2 SKS's - Russian Tula and Yugo. Mukha atang kinakati na naman tayo because of that posting by vega. haha.

Pero damn..saan na naman itatambak yan ? Punong puno na yung gun cabinet.

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Re: FN P90

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The P90 is a restricted FA because of its fullauto capability. Also the military issued 5.7x28mm cartridge is an AP round, so it's really meant for LEO use only.

It's not considered a high powered rifle, it's a submachine gun which is still illegal for normal gunowners to purchase...

http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg13-e.htm
So all of those machine pistols they sell in the gun show at megamall are all for police and military personnel?

I hate these stupid laws, full-auto is perfect for civilians, and even more suited for civilians than for the police or the military.
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