[choi_tan2000]

mistah

i think mrv_g17 datas are those documented.. hehehe

ung un documented marami din.. kasi me mga lobbyist sa congress or senate example me mga bill's na me relation sa negosyo.

ex. tele communication.. (for a senator to pass or endorse a bill-malamamng me comisyon un diba) sample lang un sir ha hehehe

marami pang iba. petrolium, vehicles, minning, marami pang iba.. kaya dun maloaki kick back nila i think......

di naman kasi sila basta magsponsor ng bill kung di sila magkakamerun diba?? or madumi lang isip ko hehe..

but if we look on their investment ????? they need to regain it diba..

[cznayr]

I'll do the math

CDf allocation per year is 200 Million. Multiply it by six years they are in office. That is 1.2 Billion. Take 20% of it. That would be 240Million in kickbacks on their pork barrel alone.

Another source of income is the intelligence fund. This doesn't get audited. My brother in law who's from COA said a congressman has 100,000 pesos per month. They just sign a certificate that says these funds have been expended. Magkano pa kaya sa Senators.

Who knows what other avenues they use to recoup their funds? If your project is in the jurisdiction of the senator, kahit hinde sourced from their pork barrel ang funding.. kailangan may say din siya, katulad dun sa project that i've been engaged before (an airport development project financed by JBIC) .. gusto nung Senator may siya sa contractor, consultant etc...

[wingz]

Originally posted by cznayr
Have you heard about the Ang Kapatiran Party ni Nandy Pacheco, they have four candidates.. Guess what's their platform..

Nakuuuupo! Ayan na naman si Nandy "G.U.N.D.I." Pacheco: - Gunowner detraction initiator.

[mistahglock17]

Originally posted by cznayr
I'll do the math

CDf allocation per year is 200 Million. Multiply it by six years they are in office. That is 1.2 Billion. Take 20% of it. That would be 240Million in kickbacks on their pork barrel alone.

Another source of income is the intelligence fund. This doesn't get audited. My brother in law who's from COA said a congressman has 100,000 pesos per month. They just sign a certificate that says these funds have been expended. Magkano pa kaya sa Senators.

Who knows what other avenues they use to recoup their funds? If your project is in the jurisdiction of the senator, kahit hinde sourced from their pork barrel ang funding.. kailangan may say din siya, katulad dun sa project that i've been engaged before (an airport development project financed by JBIC) .. gusto nung Senator may siya sa contractor, consultant etc...

very well said bro

Originally posted by choi_tan2000
ex. tele communication.. (for a senator to pass or endorse a bill-malamamng me comisyon un diba) sample lang un sir ha hehehe

700M txt msges/day ang ipinapadala sa pinas pala. baket hindi maibagsak ang presyo ng txt? think about it mga bro... sa mga high volume you buy, the more discount you get. And the less valume you buy, the less discount you get

tama ba ako ako talagang engot lang ako sa MAT

[choi_tan2000]

mistah / cznayr

tama kau sir.. laki nga ng kita .. why bother to spend 150million for the campaign eh 90 of that came from supporters kuno diba? bka nga kumikita pa eh... diba...

lets just vote dun sa me delikadesa nlng kahit konti... kung merun pa..

nakalimutan pala ntn kung may impeachment may kumukita rin pala. hehehe

[MRV_G17]

Originally posted by choi_tan2000
mistah / cznayr

tama kau sir.. laki nga ng kita .. why bother to spend 150million for the campaign eh 90 of that came from supporters kuno diba? bka nga kumikita pa eh... diba...

im sure merong susuporta sa mga tra-po (traditional politicians) na businessmen/companies lalo na yung nakinabang na at gustong makinabang.

ang tanong eh...
- saan kukuha ng 150M itong mga aspiring na artista - except the rich ones ex: Sotto and Revillas.
- ano kaya maitutulong nila kay Juan dela Cruz na hindi nagawa ng ibang politiko na mas familiary sa batas at syempre dahil sa graduate sila na Law.

im just wondering

[MRV_G17]

i wonder why our Govt failed to help those poor victims of the pre-need education plan? really feel sorry for them kasi pinaghirapan nila yung perang ibinigay nila sa CAP tapos di man lang bigyan pansin ng mga mambabatas natin ng gumawa ng batas (para protektahan si juan dela cruz or para protektahan sarili nilang interest na kumita?).

sa pinas kasi normal ng prinopertahan ng ilang politikos yung interest ng pagkakaperahan kesa sa mamamayan.

Victims of failed pre-need plans form party-list group
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakin...ticle_id=50047

[antediluvianist]

From now on, all candidates must be virgins, and then must be sterilized if they win. Why? That the ABSOLUTELY ONLY WAY to stop these goddam dynasties in politics. They are absolutely ridiculous.

It gets even more ridiculous when it's dynasty na, mga bobong artista pa (like the Revillas).

[Kiddo]

BOGs, please continue VOTING~!

Like what others have said, if you don't vote, then corrupt politicos will use your vote! At least when you yourself vote, you are the one making the choice and not them!

[charlie-xray]

It's sad to see all these Trapos still active and looks sincere during the campaign period. Hindi nakakapag-taka bakit halos 80% ng pilipino gusto ng mag-migrate sa ibang bansa at suko na sa kabulukan ng systema ng pinas.

Kailan kaya darating yung araw na ang pagsisilbihan nila eh ang mamayan at hindi ang mayayaman. At darating pa kaya, kami na lang na biktima ng LINTEK NA CAP na yan, wala pa rin kaming justice up to now.

[mistahglock17]

Originally posted by charlie-xray
Kailan kaya darating yung araw na ang pagsisilbihan nila eh ang mamayan at hindi ang mayayaman. At darating pa kaya, kami na lang na biktima ng LINTEK NA CAP na yan, wala pa rin kaming justice up to now.

my sympathy Sir. di kasi alam ng mga damuhong pulitiko na gusto din natin bigyan magandang education mga anak natin.

"Ang kabataan ang pag-asa ng Bayan" - pano magiging pag-asa ng bayan mga kabataan natin kung di makakatapos ng pag-aaral dahil hindi maibalik ng CARP ang pera ng mga magulang?

of course, education is always FREE at PMA academy.

[charlie-xray]

Oo nga eh, and come to think of it naging mabuting magulang ako kasi wala pa kaming anak 3 yrs ng bayad yung CAP ko, kaya ngayon isang fully paid 5 years at isang 3yrs paid, pero wala na lahat.

Migrate sana kaso parang hindi pa rin ako SUKO sa pinas eh! wala pa ring kasing SARAP ang sariling bansa natin kahit na puro BULOK ang nasa itaas. Kaya sabi ko sa sarili ko, ma-attain ko lang ang financial stability, mapag-tapos ko mga anak ko AYOS na siguro ako nun, tapos pagka retired na eh dapat palagi lang may pera pambili ng ammo at pamalit ng parts pagka masira ang boomer ko.

Simple LIFE.

Originally posted by mistahglock17
my sympathy Sir. di kasi alam ng mga damuhong pulitiko na gusto din natin bigyan magandang education mga anak natin.

"Ang kabataan ang pag-asa ng Bayan" - pano magiging pag-asa ng bayan mga kabataan natin kung di makakatapos ng pag-aaral dahil hindi maibalik ng CARP ang pera ng mga magulang?

of course, education is always FREE at PMA academy.

[mistahglock17]

Originally posted by charlie-xray
Migrate sana kaso parang hindi pa rin ako SUKO sa pinas eh! wala pa ring kasing SARAP ang sariling bansa natin kahit na puro BULOK ang nasa itaas. Kaya sabi ko sa sarili ko, ma-attain ko lang ang financial stability, mapag-tapos ko mga anak ko AYOS na siguro ako nun, tapos pagka retired na eh dapat palagi lang may pera pambili ng ammo at pamalit ng parts pagka masira ang boomer ko.

Simple LIFE.

pre, IMHO, migrating to other country wont do good. other pinoy has sold their all their properties then after some years and endedup spending their hard earned money to buy back properties para makabalik sa pinas.

sabi nga ni Gary V. "BABALIK AT BABALIK KA RIN"

with regards to CAP, who knows... baka sakyan ng ibang politiko yang issue na yan para iboto sila

Goodluck bro. pero kapag artista naupo, ala na. baka sabihin pa sa yo na pag-artistahin na lang natin mga anak natin at wag ng mag aral kung walang pang bayad sa tuition fees

[MRV_G17]

Originally posted by mistahglock17
pero kapag artista naupo, ala na. baka sabihin pa sa yo na pag-artistahin na lang natin mga anak natin at wag ng mag aral kung walang pang bayad sa tuition fees

kapag naging artista pwede sundan tapak ni Goma

Richard Gomez named adviser of House committee on drugs
http://showbizandstyle.inquirer.net/...ticle_id=50621

[MRV_G17]

Originally posted by cznayr
I'll do the math

CDf allocation per year is 200 Million. Multiply it by six years they are in office. That is 1.2 Billion. Take 20% of it. That would be 240Million in kickbacks on their pork barrel alone.

Another source of income is the intelligence fund. This doesn't get audited. My brother in law who's from COA said a congressman has 100,000 pesos per month. They just sign a certificate that says these funds have been expended. Magkano pa kaya sa Senators.

Who knows what other avenues they use to recoup their funds? If your project is in the jurisdiction of the senator, kahit hinde sourced from their pork barrel ang funding.. kailangan may say din siya, katulad dun sa project that i've been engaged before (an airport development project financed by JBIC) .. gusto nung Senator may siya sa contractor, consultant etc...

sapul na sapul mo cznayr. eto at umamin na, na meron nga 'kita' kapag naging senador
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=67727
No less than President Arroyo admitted Thursday that lobbyists for major pharmaceutical firms tried to influence her to block proposed legislation revising patent laws that would allow the importation of cheaper medicine in the country.

Mrs. Arroyo told reporters during a roundtable discussion in Malacañang that several lobbyists tried to set up private meetings with her during her trip to Davos, Switzerland last month. She said she turned down the requests since she had already made up her mind to support the bills.

The President's admission came two days after lobby groups tried to block the passage of House Bill 6035 or the Cheaper Medicine Bill during a special session of Congress.

Senate President Manuel Villar admitted that powerful lobby groups, including foreign organizations, sometimes influence lawmakers to support or block pending bills.

"There are Americans. They like to threaten you and because of Filipinos' colonial mentality, many lawmakers are threatened," he told DZMM.

He said the Senate has already banned lobbyists during hearings, especially during budget deliberations.

"There is a need to pass a law against [lobbying in Congress]. Actually, I tried to draft a bill about that but it's too hard to differentiate which acts of lobby groups should be declared illegal," Villar said, noting that some lawmakers are openly bribed by lobby groups.

Last Tuesday lobbyists of the Pharmaceutical and Healthcare Association of the Philippines slipped a note to Makati Rep. Teodoro Locsin, asking the congressman to question the quorum during the plenary session on the Cheaper Medicine Bill at the House of Representatives.

The note, which was written in a one-fourth piece of paper said: "We desperately need someone to question the quorum now. Can you do it? Please confirm with Leo Wassmer." The note also had a cellular phone number written below the paper.

Wassmer was later identified as PHAP executive vice-president and chief executive officer.

The infuriated Locsin showed the letter to other congressmen before they proceeded to the gallery to confront the lobbyists, who they later asked to leave the gallery.

Iloilo Rep. Rolex Suplico identified the lobbyists as lawyer Marilyn Matamis Ocampo, corporate legal counsel of GlaxoSmithKline, and lawyer Faustina Carmen Bautista, legal affairs manager of Pfizer.

He said he is studying filing criminal charges against the two for disrupting legislative proceedings

Pfizer Philippines, meanwhile, denied reports that the company was trying to block the passage of HB 6035.

In a statement, the company said it had only one representative present in the gallery during the special session on the Cheaper Medicine Bill.

"As a leading pharmaceutical company, providing access to innovative medicines to thousands of patients in the Philippines, Pfizer believes it has a responsibility to participate actively in critical deliberations pertaining to healthcare. Any suggestion that the company acted in an untoward manner is simply untrue and contrary to Pfizer values," the company said in a statement.

It added: "Pfizer strongly believes that IP protection is a critical driver for the production of innovative medicines and ultimately the provision of better healthcare for all."

[blueeagle]

this will result in a tsunami of counterfeit drugs. the most logical way to bring down the price of meds is to encourage and nurture our pharmaceutical industry. the reason why we lag behind our asian neighbors is that we have been too used to importing what we need.

[antediluvianist]

"Our" pharmaceutical companies make enormous profits already - look at the list of Philippines' top 1000 corporations and top 1000 taxpayers.

I'm in the healthcare business and boy! don't waste any pity on our pharmaceutical companies.

We are a small country and we do not have the necessary economies of scale for the modern hi-tech antibiotics and chemo etc. drugs. You know how many patients can afford one of the best anti-breast-cancer drugs on the market? 66 per year in the whole of the Philippines, all of them A or A+ economic-level women. Hundreds need it, only 66 can afford it.

In India it sells for 20% the price, and NO, it's NOT fake - they have the economies of scale and a government that is not in the pocket of the international drug companies and the few rich locals who own pharmas/are partners of international drug companies.

Sure, there are fakes all over the world, especially in Africa, but there are also GENUINE LOCALLY_PRODUCED INEXPENSIVE DRUGS, and you just need to go to India and buy the known good brands ("Ranbaxy" etc.) to verify this.

[navychief]

There's nothing we can do about our politics...nasa culture na natin yan... and this started way back sa panahon ng Kastila. Actually, most countries na under ng Spanish rule, madumi ang politics nila. Even if we don't vote for the dirty politicians, they can still buy votes to win. Sa atin nga lang mas nakakahiya dahil walang alam sa paninilbihan sa bayan ang karamihan sa mga pulitiko. It's "me first" before the Filipino people attitude. It's sad to admit but dyan ko kinahihiya ang karamihan ng mga politicians natin.

[MRV_G17]

Originally posted by antediluvianist
"Our" pharmaceutical companies make enormous profits already - look at the list of Philippines' top 1000 corporations and top 1000 taxpayers.

I'm in the healthcare business and boy! don't waste any pity on our pharmaceutical companies.

We are a small country and we do not have the necessary economies of scale for the modern hi-tech antibiotics and chemo etc. drugs. You know how many patients can afford one of the best anti-breast-cancer drugs on the market? 66 per year in the whole of the Philippines, all of them A or A+ economic-level women. Hundreds need it, only 66 can afford it.

In India it sells for 20% the price, and NO, it's NOT fake - they have the economies of scale and a government that is not in the pocket of the international drug companies and the few rich locals who own pharmas/are partners of international drug companies.

Sure, there are fakes all over the world, especially in Africa, but there are also GENUINE LOCALLY_PRODUCED INEXPENSIVE DRUGS, and you just need to go to India and buy the known good brands ("Ranbaxy" etc.) to verify this.

I agree with you bro 1001%

Filipinos should now know na dahil sa ilang mga pulitikong ungas ang nakikinabang sa tuwing magtataas ng presyo mga drug companys. wala tayong batas na nagre-regular sa mga drug companies kaya they do jackup their prices... at their own will.

with this new BILL, im sure marami dyan ang gagawa ng paraan para masabing maraming fake ng gamot. yeah right, those are really fake lalo na kung isasabotage nila just to prove to public na totoo nga.

pero kung merong lumabas na fake drug... dapat firing squad yung encharge sa pagche-check ng mga pumapasok na gamot sa Pinas.

hhmmm... I would suggest na gawin na lang nating moving COF yung encharge na mag-aaprove ng mga fake na gamot (((i hear some BOGs saying YES!!!!)))