LTCH expires 2/25/2007, what to do?

S.Winger · 02-22-2007, 12:11

My license expires 2/25/2007 so unless I want to commit a felony I will have to stop carrying until the lifetime license arrives. Does anyone know for a fact that this is the case. The lady at the police station told me this. I thought that I have read here that your license is still valid as long a you have a copy of your pending application. If anyone could clear this up it would be greatly appreciated. I mailed in my application about 2 months ago.

Thanks,

swinger

R. Emmelman · 02-22-2007, 12:16

If you have renewed prior to the expiration date and have the copy of the application you are OK. Just keep the application copy with your expired license.

TheWanderer · 02-22-2007, 14:14

I've been told by the guys at Premier Arms that some counties are not recognizing the receipts and indeed arresting people.

R. Emmelman · 02-22-2007, 14:38

FWIW

IC 35-47-2-6
Granting or rejecting initial application; renewals
35-47-2-6 Sec. 6. (a) Every initial application for any license under this chapter shall be granted or rejected within sixty (60) days after the application is filed.
(b) The period during which an application for the renewal of an existing license may be filed begins one hundred eighty (180) days before the expiration of the existing license. If the application for renewal of an existing license is filed within thirty (30) days of its expiration, the existing license is automatically extended until the application for renewal is passed upon.
As added by P.L.311-1983, SEC.32. Amended by P.L.190-2006,

S.Winger · 02-22-2007, 16:17

Thanks R. Emmelman,

I appreciate you posting the Indiana Code. That definitely clears it up for me.

swinger

R. Emmelman · 02-23-2007, 06:15

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Originally posted by S.Winger
Thanks R. Emmelman,

I appreciate you posting the Indiana Code. That definitely clears it up for me.

swinger

You might want to print it out and carry it with you, just incase...

Also http://www.in.gov/isp/firearms/

Rich

02-23-2007, 08:49

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Originally posted by TheWanderer
I've been told by the guys at Premier Arms that some counties are not recognizing the receipts and indeed arresting people.

Yeah, you always want to rely on gunshop info.....

KSFreeman · 02-23-2007, 09:02

Steve, be nice!

minuteman32 · 02-23-2007, 09:10

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Originally posted by sjstill
Yeah, you always want to rely on gunshop info.....

Steve....... don't you work in a gun shop?!

02-23-2007, 09:18

DOH!!!!!

R. Emmelman · 02-23-2007, 11:24

Fixed it for you!

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Originally posted by minuteman32
Steve....... don't you sit around a gun shop?!

TheWanderer · 02-23-2007, 17:30

Well the owner of Premier Arms is running for Brownsburg City Council, or at least thinking about it. He regularly talks to Hendricks County LEOs and that's who told him counties are not obeying the receipts clause.

IndyGunFreak · 02-23-2007, 17:39

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Originally posted by TheWanderer
Well the owner of Premier Arms is running for Brownsburg City Council, or at least thinking about it. He regularly talks to Hendricks County LEOs and that's who told him counties are not obeying the receipts clause.

Do you know how often police are misinformed on laws?

IGF

02-23-2007, 18:36

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Originally posted by R. Emmelman
Fixed it for you!

quote:Originally posted by minuteman32
Steve....... don't you sit around a gun shop?!

Hey, Rich, I resemble that remark

TheWanderer · 02-23-2007, 18:37

Not if they are the ones being ordered to do the arresting!

As corrupt as our political system is, and it makes the laws, I have no doubt that some counties are ignoring the receipts.

eljay45 · 02-24-2007, 04:32

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Originally posted by TheWanderer

As corrupt as our political system is, and it makes the laws, I have no doubt that some counties are ignoring the receipts.

They can't ignore state law. Anyone lawyer 2 days out of law school could get the charges dropped.

KSFreeman · 02-24-2007, 06:16

True, and I work for guns and ammo.

Patrick Graham · 02-24-2007, 13:54

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Originally posted by S.Winger
My license expires 2/25/2007 so unless I want to commit a felony I will have to stop carrying until the lifetime license arrives. Does anyone know for a fact that this is the case. The lady at the police station told me this. I thought that I have read here that your license is still valid as long a you have a copy of your pending application. If anyone could clear this up it would be greatly appreciated. I mailed in my application about 2 months ago.

Thanks,

swinger

Hmm.. the nice lady at the Kokomo popo dept told me that even when my permit expires all I need is the expired permit and the paperwork for my liftine permit and I'm good to go..

It's sounds like every dept has a different take on this..

I'm thinking we need to call and find out for sure..

Warp · 02-25-2007, 00:33

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Originally posted by S.Winger
My license expires 2/25/2007 so unless I want to commit a felony I will have to stop carrying until the lifetime license arrives. Does anyone know for a fact that this is the case. The lady at the police station told me this. I thought that I have read here that your license is still valid as long a you have a copy of your pending application. If anyone could clear this up it would be greatly appreciated. I mailed in my application about 2 months ago.

Thanks,

swinger

Felony? Why felony?

IC 35-47-2-1
Carrying a handgun without a license or by person convicted of domestic battery
35-47-2-1 Sec. 1. (a) Except as provided in subsection (b) and section 2 of this chapter, a person shall not carry a handgun in any vehicle or on or about the person's body, except in the person's dwelling, on the person's property or fixed place of business, without a license issued under this chapter being in the person's possession.
(b) Unless the person's right to possess a firearm has been restored under IC 3-7-13-5 or IC 33-28-4-8, a person who has been convicted of domestic battery under IC 35-42-2-1.3 may not possess or carry a handgun in any vehicle or on or about the person's body in the person's dwelling or on the person's property or fixed place of business.

IC 35-47-2-23
Violations; classes of misdemeanors and felonies
35-47-2-23 Sec. 23. (a) A person who violates section 3, 4, 5, 14, 15, or 16 of this chapter commits a Class B misdemeanor.
(b) A person who violates section 7, 17, or 18 of this chapter commits a Class C felony.
(c) A person who violates section 1 of this chapter commits a Class A misdemeanor. However, the offense is a Class C felony:
(1) if the offense is committed:
(A) on or in school property;
(B) within one thousand (1,000) feet of school property; or
(C) on a school bus; or
(2) if the person:
(A) has a prior conviction of any offense under:
(i) this subsection; or
(ii) subsection (d); or
(B) has been convicted of a felony within fifteen (15) years before the date of the offense.
(d) A person who violates section 22 of this chapter commits a Class A misdemeanor. However, the offense is a Class D felony if the person has a prior conviction of any offense under this subsection or subsection (c), or if the person has been convicted of a felony within fifteen (15) years before the date of the offense.

TheWanderer · 02-25-2007, 17:21

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Originally posted by R. Emmelman
If you have renewed prior to the expiration date and have the copy of the application you are OK. Just keep the application copy with your expired license.

If I apply 180 days before expiration though, my license is not expired. I should only have to keep the application copy with my license if the expiration date passes and I've still not received my new permit, correct?

R. Emmelman · 02-25-2007, 19:56

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Originally posted by TheWanderer
If I apply 180 days before expiration though, my license is not expired. I should only have to keep the application copy with my license if the expiration date passes and I've still not received my new permit, correct?

Yes, you are correct.

TheWanderer · 02-25-2007, 21:35

Thanks for the info!