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03-11-2007, 12:52
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Roanoke Times Article
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03-11-2007, 13:00
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Just in case anyone wants to send snail mail. The author of that lovely piece of garbage can be contaced at his house.........
CHRISTIAN J TREJBAL
675 SCHOOL LN
CHRISTIANSBURG, VA 24073
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03-11-2007, 13:07
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i wouldn't get worked up about this, trejbal is just helping bring more people to our side. he's a stupid pin-headed libtard with nothing better to do than try and hurt the citizens of this great state. he's exposing himself for what he is.
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03-11-2007, 13:15
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i just included the directions to his house in my response, let's see if my comment makes it.
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03-11-2007, 19:53
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You have got to be kidding me...
That assclown needs a superglue enema
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03-11-2007, 19:59
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03-11-2007, 21:37
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In case anyone wants his work e-mail....
christian.trejbal@roanoke.com
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"When you're afraid, keep your mind on what you have to do. And if you have been thoroughly prepared, you will not be afraid."
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03-11-2007, 22:03
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Hopefully this will result in a law forbidding the publishing of such personal information.
Here is the results of the poll...
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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03-11-2007, 23:04
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The link to the Roanoke Times Publishing Standards
http://www.roanoke.com/newsservices/wb/xp-59614#1
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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03-11-2007, 23:38
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yeah gotta love this...
Quote:
Simply put, our future depends on our credibility.
Those who turn to us for news and information need to believe not only in the accuracy of what we print, post or record, but in our commitment to community service, to journalistic excellence and to the highest ethical standards.
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"When you're afraid, keep your mind on what you have to do. And if you have been thoroughly prepared, you will not be afraid."
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03-12-2007, 06:25
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You know... for someone so concerned that one of us might come unhinged... he is awfully brave to do something that might piss 1/130,000 of us off.
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03-12-2007, 07:06
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Dear Mr Trejbal:
I don't agree that it was right to print this article. Gun owners who have concealed carry are the most concerned about following the law yet you equate us to child molesters. I have known people who carry who are _not_ on your list. Who's the bigger threat to the public? You state that town council members who carry ought to be avoided so as not to annoy them. If permit-holders are so dangerous that they might shoot someone who annoys them, you sure are taking a risk by annoying all of them aren't you?
I don't even know what to say to you. It was obviously lost on you that some people have these permits to protect them from a violent past. I'm not one of these people. I'm just someone who carries a pistol with me while hunting and wished to follow the letter of the law if I ever put it in my backpack. I don't really care if people know if I carry, but I also don't know what business it is of someone in Richmond, Staunton, or Danville. I also don't like the idea that my home might be specifically targeted for theft. I hope you realize there will be more guns and fear on the street because of what you've done, rather than less.
According to the comments page you claim this discussion is best suited for the VA legislature. Well, why didn't you interview anyone in the legislature and ask them why it was publicly available. Instead your shot is across the bow of some of the least-threatening, most law-abiding people in the state. You're article, which is supposedly about the public domain, implies that states that allow CCW have more crime. Is it not possible that there is more CCW because there is more crime?
To sum it up. I hope someone finds a way to sue you and your paper. I hope that you are blessed with the knowledge if someone actually dies because of this article. Gun-control advocates often say "if it saves just one life, it's worth it to get rid of guns". I guess the corollary question would be, "If it harms one life, was it still worth it?"
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03-12-2007, 09:22
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I have written a letter as well. Does anyone know if the VCDL or NRA is getting involved in this yet? Even considering getting involved?
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03-12-2007, 09:26
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They are... if you are a member of VCDL they'll send you email updates.
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03-12-2007, 09:37
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You know I kept putting off my membership to VDCL...mainly out of laziness i guess. Just signed up with my credit card. This guy is an arrogant, sanctimonious son of a ***** who couches his political liberalism and self-righteousness in his Hurst style writing. There is nothing responsible about his journalism and I am enraged at the way he has portrayed gun owners. His lack of decorum towards others is mind boggeling and I intend to write him an email this afternoon once I calm down a little.
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03-12-2007, 11:44
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Yes, VCDL was on this yesterday. An alert will be sent to members when they have something to report.
RussP
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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03-12-2007, 11:48
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Chris Trejbal
Editor, Roanoke Times
Born: 9/15/1970
2502 FAIRWAY DR SW
ROANOKE, VA 24015
(540) 400-0343
Property listed under the name "AC Denton"
675 SCHOOL LN
CHRISTIANSBURG, VA 24073
He just bought it for $115K
1 008764 497- 15 27,28 TREJBAL CHRISTIAN J 675 SCHOOL LN CHRISTIANSBURG
675 SCHOOL LN CHRISTIANSBURG VA
24073 SPRADLIN ADD LOTS 27,28 SPRADLIN ADDITION 27,28
0859-0225 2006 008321 $25500 $64200 $89700 $0 CS R3 CR060400 13-JUL-06
$116000 1.5 1948 6 3 1 812 1314 TREJBAL SCHOOL 116000 [polygon] 26226
All public record. Turnabout is fair play
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03-12-2007, 11:49
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I'd like to ask that we do not post the link to the list.
The fewer places it resides, the better it is for us on the list.
Thank you
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Freedom has a taste to those who fight and almost die, that the protected will never know.
Kind of like on the internet forums - People continually flip someone off who they know is obligated to not break the rules in response. Yeah, usually that type of stupidity eventually yields the rewards that are earned.
And then there are those trying so hard to be offended that they're imagining things that haven't even been said in a thread.
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03-12-2007, 12:25
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You mean this link?
VA CCW Database
 Hiya Russ!
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03-12-2007, 12:41
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And I think the comments thingy is broken now.
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03-12-2007, 12:45
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Quote:
Originally posted by G30Jack
And I think the comments thingy is broken now.
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I think so too. I was reading it and i closed it by accident and now it wont re-open that section. He was responding on there.
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03-12-2007, 12:47
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Has anyone tried to access the list? I just tried it and it says "no data." Is it possible that it has now been removed?
EDIT: Sorry, it wasnt taken down. It was just acting up.
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03-12-2007, 12:59
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Mark Taylor an outdoor writer for the Roanoke Times; has written an article about this this...
http://blogs.roanoke.com/wildlife/sh...ite_a_bit.html
Mark has a place to post on this topic.
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03-12-2007, 14:44
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I posted on Mark's article and I sent an email to Mr. Trejbal regarding his arrogance and ignorance.
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03-12-2007, 15:06
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Roanoke Area Guys,
Watch the WDBJ7 news tonight.
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