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Old 04-12-2007, 19:53   #1
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What's the deal/scam with neighbor's perpetual 'dealer' tags on their cars

We have had two different occupants (families) in the house next to us over the last 4 years. They knew each other. They always have different cars, and those cars always have paper or dealer metal plates.

Is this some type of scam? What's the deal? Witness protection program?

And they always only have friends come and go after dark. Now, that ALONE is no big deal.

It's just always odd.

The sheriff has been over there a couple of times, too. Is there any way to get a public record on why they visited over there? Just nosey. Oh, that's the same neighbor whose pitbull bit my leg last year, too. (posted elsewhere here)
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Old 04-12-2007, 20:07   #2
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Do they work for a car lot?? Perhaps they're demo cars or something like that.
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Old 04-12-2007, 20:31   #3
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Do they work for a car lot?? Perhaps they're demo cars or something like that.
No. Neither 'family' or residents work for a car dealer. But, they have the plates often and they change cars pretty frequently.
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Call the FBI! hehe

And then shoot that pit bull.

Just kidding.

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Some times the dealer that sold the car does not have the title to the car and reissues a dealer tag over and over. This is illegal because the dealer is suppose to have the title before selling the car. Dealers offend buy the cars at auctions or other ways and really don't have a title. They want a quick sale and will offen accept a low price due to the car still being in the process of exchanging titles. The buyer can request that the seller void the deal because he sold a vehicle they did not own.
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Old 04-12-2007, 22:19   #6
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Call the FBI! hehe

And then shoot that pit bull.

Just kidding.

Kind of.

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The last dog that bit me didn't live very long afterward. Of course I was 6 and had to have over 100 stitches in my face and almost lost my eye. Oh and I wasn't the first kid it bit. My dad wanted to try out his 686 on it, but the police didn't like that idea.
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Old 04-13-2007, 03:40   #7
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Some times the dealer that sold the car does not have the title to the car and reissues a dealer tag over and over. This is illegal because the dealer is suppose to have the title before selling the car. Dealers offend buy the cars at auctions or other ways and really don't have a title. They want a quick sale and will offen accept a low price due to the car still being in the process of exchanging titles. The buyer can request that the seller void the deal because he sold a vehicle they did not own.
But, I would think over the course of 4 or 5 years, two of these occupants, and probably 20 cars, this scenario becomes less likely and it's a conscious effort to continue the behavior for whatever purpose.
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Live, and let live. I guess the same could be said about people who buy, and sell firearms now and again. This is our hobby, that is his hobby.
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Old 04-13-2007, 05:14   #9
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If your really concerned call the Indiana State Police. Each area has an autocrimes investigator. It may be a crime that the dealer is committing in order to keep the buyer from filing a complaint that they haven't received their title yet. It is hard to say with limited information.
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I would call Mr. Obvious. He had an insightful program on this problem.
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Old 04-13-2007, 06:43   #11
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If your really concerned call the Indiana State Police. Each area has an autocrimes investigator. It may be a crime that the dealer is committing in order to keep the buyer from filing a complaint that they haven't received their title yet. It is hard to say with limited information.
Some "complaints" become public record and your neighbors can find out who "called the cops" on them...

In my neighborhood, it's not worth having my house burned down.
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I would call Mr. Obvious. He had an insightful program on this problem.
He really did?

I record the Bob and Tom show to hard disk drive everyday. If you know when it aired, I can search for it. But, I don't recall this particular subject coming up.
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It's on one of their albums. Maybe the Mr. Obvious album?

Dean calls as the Nieghborhood Watch Captain of Shady Acres Subdivision, Phase III, and reports "drug dealers".
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It's on one of their albums. Maybe the Mr. Obvious album?

Dean calls as the Nieghborhood Watch Captain of Shady Acres Subdivision, Phase III, and reports "drug dealers".
*checks iTunes library*
It's on the Happy Hour album, track title is "The Stakeout". Yes, I'm that bored at work.
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Old 04-13-2007, 10:45   #15
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I'm sorry that my 'pass' on a Rose-Hulman engineering degree precluded me from being in your predicament.
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I'm sorry that my 'pass' on a Rose-Hulman engineering degree precluded me from being in your predicament.
LOL! This is just my spring break "job". Babysit presenters at a conference and try to come up with solutions if the projectors/laptops/whatever breaks. Not a lot of work, decent pay, pretty sweet gig
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The "carjacking" is my favorite Mr. Obvious. Dean thinks that the valets are gangmembers out to steal his car at a restaurant downtown.

Reminds me of the Lafayette City Council and their response to "gangs".
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But, I would think over the course of 4 or 5 years, two of these occupants, and probably 20 cars, this scenario becomes less likely and it's a conscious effort to continue the behavior for whatever purpose.
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Vehicle Crimes Unit - The Vehicle Crimes Unit consists of one sergeant and six detectives who conduct vehicle crime investigations statewide. They assist other investigators and agencies with the identification of stolen vehicles, vehicle parts, and vehicle documents. This unit has a direct link with the National Insurance Crime Bureau and serves as the department's liaison with the Bureau of Motor Vehicles.


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Old 04-13-2007, 18:44   #19
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I have no reason to suspect out right theft.

Just has the appearance of impropriety.
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Around the city they are about as common as the "Tag Applied For" signs (usually witnessed in aged cardboard with spelling errors)...
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My cousin is a fire-fighter and an automobile wholesaler. With his wholesalers license he gets five dealer plates. What he typically does is buy a car at auction, slap a dealer plate on it, drives it for a few weeks while he does a little fixing up on it, then sells it to an individual or back to an auction for a profit. It is all perfectly legal and is nothing to be concerned about.



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Old 04-14-2007, 08:57   #22
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I don't care to research all the dealer regs, and I have both worked for a dealer and know dealers, but this guy and the guy he bought the house from (they are friends) neither of which are dealers. I can't tell that the guy is employed at all over the past 3 years, he does not leave his house for a job anyway.

They have taken to parking by backing-in to the drive, too. Reminds me of the Nation of Islam members that do not display their plates to 38th street.
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a year later and the guy is still driving his cars on dealer plates.
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Call BMV and ask them.
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IMO, If it is not illegal then it should be, buy here pay here dealer or not. What I have found is that they use the dealer plates to circumvent paying sales tax, license & registration fees that the rest of us must pay. If you've got a sales lot and actually do demos that's one thing but to drive on the dealer plate to keep from paying the State for normal registration fees then thats another. Usually used by relatives, friends (accomplices) because when you run the plate it doesn't come back to that vehicle or driver. It was a violation of the law to circumvent paying the State registration & licensing fees If I have to pay then everyone should pay their fare share.
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