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Old 04-19-2007, 20:12   #1
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dnr handgun rules

I saw some talk about these meetings on here, the great thing is that if you can't make it, you can email you thoughts or mail them in etc. They are discussing making the new handgun rules permenant to have Licensed handguns for protection while hunting and also on DNR Property.

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Rules can be seen http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/about/rules.html there is a link towards the bottom.

In case you can't see the first link :
Written comments can be sent to:

Hearing Officer
Natural Resources Commission
402 W. Washington Street, W272
Indianapolis, IN 46204

Comments can also be e-mailed to: jkane@nrc.IN.gov

Written comments must be received no later than Friday, May 18.

I commented that yes any and all restrictions against anyone licensed to carry a handgun carrying while hunting should be removed permenantly. Also the restrictions for carrying on DNR property.

Please take a moment to send in your own comments. Thank you...Ralph
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Old 04-19-2007, 22:54   #2
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Thank you for the reminder!
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Old 04-20-2007, 06:39   #3
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Notice from our good friend D. S. in the mid part of the state about the DNR meeting concerning making permanent the rule to allow the carrying of firearms on state owned property and state parks.

The hearings will be held at 6 p.m. (EDT) at the following locations:

1) Tuesday, May 15, at the Patio Building at the Miami County
Fairgrounds located at 1029 W. 200 N. in Peru (Miami County)

2) Wednesday, May 16, at Spring Mill State Park in the Lakeview Room;
6666 Hwy 60 East in Mitchell (Lawrence County)

Specifically, the changes would permanently allow individuals with
handgun licenses for personal protection to carry a handgun on DNR
properties. The other changes involve hunting activities on both private
and public land. Those with handgun licenses for personal protection
would continue to be able to carry such firearms when hunting wild
turkeys or when hunting deer with a bow and arrow. Similarly, properly
licensed individuals would also be able to continue to carry a handgun
when running dogs for opossums and raccoons during the chasing season.
Previously, DNR rules prohibited carrying licensed handguns in these
instances. These proposals allow a means of personal protection while
hunting or visiting a DNR property.
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Old 05-17-2007, 00:52   #4
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Natural Resources Commission Public Meeting Re: DNR Handgun Rules - 16MAY07

I attended the NRC public meeting at Spring Mill Park
near Mitchell, Indiana last night. It was a long drive for me, but I
am very glad we attended.

The NRC representative, Sandra Jensen, opened the meeting with a
brief summary on the current DNR Administrative and Hunting
regulations, including the current emergency/temporary order
implemented by former DNR Director Kyle Hupfer in Sept. of 2006. The
purpose of the meeting was to get input on the NRC making the new
rules permanent.

There were about 16 people in attendance, and each of us got to speak
as many times as we wished. Everyone spoke at least once (I was one
of the chatty cathies who took the opportunity to speak more than
once).

Of those in attendance, only one was opposed to make the rules
changes permanent with respect to DNR allowing lawful carry of
handguns in state parks. The fellow who did so claimed to be a
former director of the parks services. During his often
condescending (and obviously prepared) statement, he asserted that
allowing people to carry handguns in the parks would somehow make
them more dangerous, explicitly suggesting that "encounters" would
occur. He also claimed that the parks are safe and they no
one "needs" to carry handgun there, and if they're so dangerous,
people need to be warned and the parks closed. He also stated that
law enforcement agreed with him.

Needless to say, it was tough listening to that drivel, but everyone
in the room was very polite and allowed him to speak. One other
fellow gave a rebuttal and started by saying he respected the guy's
opinion, but then proceeded to shred the guy's fantasies with some
actual facts and logic.

I was impressed with the eloquence and clarity of the statements made
by everyone in the room. In addition to being in a crowd that was
actually in agreement with us for once, I was also able to make some
good contacts with some Bloomington Residents and also with one of
the guys who runs the Indiana State Rifle & Pistol Assoc. (which is
the NRA affiliate of Indiana). I think we may collaborate with ISRPA
on our legislative agenda in the future, which will be a very good
thing for all concerned.

Overall, things are looking good for us with respect to the DNR
handgun rules becoming permanent, but let's not forget the NRC are
bureaucrats, and we need to all express our opinions to them in
writing or via e-mail, especially if you were unable to attend either
of the meetings.
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Old 05-17-2007, 05:53   #5
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Joe, thanks for attending! Too bad DNR did not hold them on the weekend.
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Old 05-17-2007, 06:20   #6
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Let me say that even when it was prohibited, I know many people carried, and I even spotted a few. (and reported here)
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Old 05-17-2007, 07:56   #7
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Quote:
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Joe, thanks for attending! Too bad DNR did not hold them on the weekend.
It was my honor to represent our august body!

Actually, it was a distinct pleasure to finally attend a public meeting where the default (i.e. making the changes permanent) is in agreement with our position. We still need to be vigilant, but when the uphill battle is a bit more level, it feels a lot better.



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Let me say that even when it was prohibited, I know many people carried, and I even spotted a few. (and reported here)
And rightly so, in my opinion. I alluded to this with the DNR representative (not the NRC rep) after the formal meeting, and she certainly did not disagree with me. I think we have many allies within the Dept. of Natural Resources, whether by coincidence or just because their seems to be some people there with some common sense and an understanding that facts and logic do matter.
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Old 05-17-2007, 14:06   #8
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Re: Natural Resources Commission Public Meeting Re: DNR Handgun Rules - 16MAY07

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Originally posted by rhino465

There were about 16 people in attendance, and each of us got to speak
as many times as we wished. Everyone spoke at least once (I was one
of the chatty cathies who took the opportunity to speak more than
once).

Did you have one of those dolls when you were a girl? Oh yeah, thanks for going Joe.
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I didn't, but maybe I should have had one!
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