GlockTalk.com
Home Forums Classifieds Blogs Today's Posts Search Social Groups



  
SIGN-UP
Notices

Glock Talk
Welcome To The Glock Talk Forums.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-09-2007, 13:50   #1
jmb79
Senior Member
 
jmb79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 1,613
IN Sup. Ct. ruling re self defense shooting

Here is an article from the Indaina Lawyer Daily re a recent Indiana Supreme Court ruling re a self defense shooting. (http://64.255.242.163/emg/ILEmails/2...lType=Standard)

Thursday, August 09, 2007
Court rules on self-defense statute
Michael W. Hoskins - mhoskins@ibj.com
IL Staff

Indiana's highest court says the phrase "reasonably believes" in the state's self-defense statute requires a person to have subjective belief that force was necessary to prevent serious bodily injury and that actual belief was one any reasonable person would have had under the circumstances.

The Indiana Supreme Court issued its unanimous decision Wednesday afternoon in Philip Littler v. State of Indiana, No. 71S03-0704-CR-151, reversing a ruling by St. Joseph Superior Judge Roland Chamblee Jr.

The case involves a gun and knife fight between two teenage brothers in December 2004. Eighteen-year-old Neal Littler went to his grandmother's house to visit his twin brother, Philip, and the two got into an argument. Fighting escalated, Neal threatened Philip with a knife pulled from a kitchen drawer, and Philip eventually pulled a handgun and fatally shot Neal in the head.

He was originally charged with voluntary manslaughter and possession of a handgun, but later charges were amended to include murder. Littler claimed self-defense, but at trial the judge excluded testimony from the mother regarding Neal's prior conduct. He received a 50-year sentence for murder. The Court of Appeals affirmed in a memorandum opinion in December, and the justices granted transfer.

In its opinion, the Supreme Court noted that an abrupt movement by Neal prompted Philip to fire the handgun from about three feet away because of a thought his brother would stab him; this belief was fueled by Philips awareness of previous incidents where his brother had stabbed people and also that he was in a manic state at the time. A 14-year-old cousin also confirmed the story, the justices pointed out, and the mother's testimony should have been allowed for the same reason.

Authoring Justice Brent Dickson wrote that excluding her testimony was not a harmless error, as the state contended.

"The mother's testimony confirming Neal's numerous prior stabbings, his mental condition, and his history of violent behavior would be very probative and relevant to the jury's evaluation of the objective reasonableness of Philip's belief that he needed to use force against Neal and would also lend credibility to (his) assertions," the court wrote. "We cannot conclude that the exclusion of the mother's testimony did not affect Philip's rights. The harmless error doctrine does not apply here, and we reverse Philip's conviction."

This reversal applies to the murder conviction, and a new trial is now ordered in St. Joseph Superior Court.

(And here is a link to the SC's opinion: http://www.in.gov/judiciary/opinions/pdf/08080701bd.pdf
jmb79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2007, 15:56   #2
KSFreeman
Broken Member
 
KSFreeman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Lafayette, Indiana
Posts: 3,405
The trial judge excluded the mother's testimony?

More of an evidence ruling than a self-defense ruling.
__________________
I am NOT English!
KSFreeman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2007, 20:07   #3
jmb79
Senior Member
 
jmb79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 1,613
KSFreeman,

I agree. The ruling addresses the admisibility of evidence (the mother's testimony) in the context of a murder trial in which the defendant shot another person (his twin brother) and asserted at trial that the killing was justifiable as self defense.

Believe it or not, we have rules of evidence in commercial litigation too.

My purpose for posting the information was to provide members a glimpse of something that might happen to any of us if we use our firearms in self defense. I did not intend for the post to an in depth analysis of the Court's ruling.
jmb79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2007, 20:41   #4
MakeMineaP99
Got SIG?
 
MakeMineaP99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: N. IN
Posts: 3,908
JMB,

I take it you are an attorney too?

Thanks for the post, even though I'm not a lawyerly type (although I'm considering it after Kirk post his Indy 1500 shopping list), it's a good read and info.
MakeMineaP99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2007, 04:45   #5
Pitmaster
Senior Member
 
Pitmaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Where there's fried chicken and BBQ
Posts: 249


The way this case was handled by the prosecutor's office is why I don't trust the legal system. According to today's newspaper here in SB, besides not letting the mother testify, the dead had a history of mental illness and violent behavior and had been convicted of attempted murder in 2003. He was killed by his brother in 2005. Seems to me his sentence was a tad lenient for attempted murder.
__________________
Pitmaster
Walther P99 Club #2985
Big Dawg #1540

TriggerMountain.com
Pitmaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:41.



Homepage
FAQ
Forums
Calendar
Advertise
Gallery
GT Wiki
GT Blogs
Social Groups
Classifieds


Users Currently Online: 1,057
515 Members
542 Guests

Most users ever online: 5,723
Apr 16, 2009 at 11:36