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Old 09-02-2007, 16:41   #61
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I decided to carry because of rival drug dealers.
That was a long time ago.



I'm glad those days are over for you.
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Old 09-02-2007, 17:54   #62
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I was living in Texas at the time of the Luby's massacre in Kileen.

Later as a result of my business, I was concerned over implied threats by others. (Concealed carry was not legal then.)

As time went on, family came, and a growing sense of the need to assume the responsibility for one's self-defense led to support of NM's CCW efforts.

Again, a really ugly business dispute on behalf of a client, lead to more veiled threates by one party who had a history of violence.

So a sense of the obligation to provide my own defense, along with life offering a few hints I should, led to my obtaining a CCW shortly after it became legal.
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Old 09-02-2007, 20:02   #63
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However, have you considered buying a used Glock? CDNN has used 17, 19, 21, 22, and 23's very reasonably priced. Frequently with night sights! The used is uaually just as good as new, they rarely have more then a few thousand rounds through them, and knowing some cops I would say many have less than a thousand rounds total. Big savings for a gun almost equal. (4 of my Glocks are used).
The savings can go into good carry leather or extra magazines.
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Old 09-02-2007, 20:05   #64
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My Dad was killed in a burglery when I was young. I have always CCW. The general trends in the last 20 years have only solidified my resolve.
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Old 09-02-2007, 21:22   #65
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However, have you considered buying a used Glock? CDNN has used 17, 19, 21, 22, and 23's very reasonably priced. Frequently with night sights! The used is uaually just as good as new, they rarely have more then a few thousand rounds through them, and knowing some cops I would say many have less than a thousand rounds total. Big savings for a gun almost equal. (4 of my Glocks are used).
The savings can go into good carry leather or extra magazines.
One thing to realize is that the N/S will probably be pretty dim. Don't buy them solely on them having N/S at a good price.
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Old 09-02-2007, 21:28   #66
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One thing to realize is that the N/S will probably be pretty dim. Don't buy them solely on them having N/S at a good price.
Not necessarily true. One of my glocks was a 1992 manufacture. Its sights are dim but still working at a servicable level of brightness in 2007. I have had it sine 1998.
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Old 09-02-2007, 21:31   #67
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Not necessarily true. One of my glocks was a 1992 manufacture. Its sights are dim but still working at a servicable level of brightness in 2007. I have had it sine 1998.
I don't know what servicable is to you, but I was simply saying that the buy shouldn't be surprized if they are. I think that 15 years for "servicable" brightness is pretty uncommon.
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Old 09-02-2007, 21:38   #68
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My Dad was killed in a burglery when I was young. I have always CCW. The general trends in the last 20 years have only solidified my resolve.
Sorry to hear that. What a lousy thing to have happen as a kid.
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Old 09-03-2007, 12:22   #69
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Oddly enough, I was in a robbery in a Taco Bell 20 some years ago. Nobody hurt, guy hopped over the counter with a shotgun, and after threatening to shoot the girl for not opening the safe, waited for the timelock safe to open before taking the money and running. Took about 20 min or so. Once he realized the safe wouldn't open for 15 min, and nobody was challenging him, he became quite amicable. Let us all sit down to enjoy our meals. Threw me some hot sauce packets for my meal. Another guy came in the store, robber demanded money. The guy had like 99 cents on him... "What, did you come in her eto rob the place too?"... Ended up giving the 99c guy a 10 spot out of the register, saying "you need this more than I do". Bizarre. Maybe that's why it wasn't that traumatic to me. The initial VERY tense situation calmed way down waiting for the safe to open. It was obvious he wasn't going to harm anyone after the initial threats to try to get the girl to open the safe, once he was clowning around. Prior to that, if I had a permit and was armed, I would have been happy to blast him when he was going over the counter, back turned to me (long line of customers, he couldn't help turning his back to someone), shotgun pointed at the ceiling before he threateded the girl about opening the safe.

At the time Mich was "may issue" and you couldn't get a permit unless you had connections. But 20 years later, when Mich went "shall issue", I honestly never thought of that incident when getting the permit.

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I just got tired of being scared. So I decided to educate myself in the ways that were available for me to keep myself safe and take ownership of my own life.

Background (in very very brief). Ten years ago I divorced my first husband. He was extremely abusive. Abusive to the point that ten years later I still fight the physical effects of what he did to me. Right after I left him I lived in constant fear that he would find me and that he would kill me. Ten years later I still wake up in the night terrified. Carrying a weapon and sleeping with one near my bed has made my nights much more restful because I know that if the worst should happen and he should find me, whether my new husband is home or not, I will survive the encounter if it is at all possible to do so.
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Old 09-04-2007, 18:04   #71
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im still quite young and i havent had any traumatic experiences to make me desire to carry. but ever since i was a little kid ive been fascinated by guns and always thought in the right hands they are useful tools. growing up with antis for parents and brother (although all claim to be conservatives) i was kind of the odd ball but my interest in firearms never went away and i decided when i first learned i could carry a firearm legally i wanted to do just that. ohio didnt get concealed carry until 2003 but i still had 3 years before i could get my license. i bought my g19 on my 21st bday and took my classes when the chance came around.
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Old 09-04-2007, 22:03   #72
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im still quite young and i havent had any traumatic experiences to make me desire to carry. but ever since i was a little kid ive been fascinated by guns and always thought in the right hands they are useful tools. growing up with antis for parents and brother (although all claim to be conservatives) i was kind of the odd ball but my interest in firearms never went away and i decided when i first learned i could carry a firearm legally i wanted to do just that. ohio didnt get concealed carry until 2003 but i still had 3 years before i could get my license. i bought my g19 on my 21st bday and took my classes when the chance came around.
This is a stretch, but I'd say your defining moment was learning that you could legally carry a concealed firearm.

I've always thought that you only get two chances to decide to CCW -- before the need arises, and after the need arises. I either read that somewhere, or it just occurred to me. Probably the former.

Great gun choice, by the way. I'm walking in your footsteps...

This has been a great thread.
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Old 09-04-2007, 23:03   #73
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Grew up around LO, father is a DEA agent and my Grandpa was a FBI Agent. I work loss prevention for a major department store (hints the username), and have just started to work as a Patrol Officer for a local housing Authority, going to school to become a Police officer.
Shoplifters usually don’t like to be caught. Will never forget the time I caught a girl who’s family just moved to the Midwest due to Katrina. She was very rough and you could tell she did not have a good home life. Her Family where all either in prison or wanted for major felony warrants. She told me that she would have her people take care of me and she was not joking. Later that night there was a car filled with her “Crew” with Bats and guns just waiting for me to come outside. Little did they know my office is a 100,000 dollar camera room and I could tell what they where up to before I left the building. The local law enforcement had there hands full with all of them. No doubt in my mind that if I would have walked outside without knowing they where there I would not be here today!

A year before this incident another good friend working loss prevention got into a scuffle with a shoplifter in the parking lot. When he was down on the ground fighting with the lifter, the lifters getaway ride driver jumped out of a car and placed a pistol against his head and told him to let his friend go or DIE. The only reason he did not shoot is because he would have also shot his friend. The lifter was released and they took off. They where later involved with a shoot out with local PD. Before the shoplifters hit our store they robbed a local DQ and killed two employees’ working there.

So needless to say I have been waiting for my 23rd birthday. Got a G23 for my 21st birthday and cant wait to carry.

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Old 09-04-2007, 23:35   #74
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Grew up around LO, father is a DEA agent and my Grandpa was a FBI Agent. I work loss prevention for a major department store (hints the username), and have just started to work as a Patrol Officer for a local housing Authority, going to school to become a Police officer.
Shoplifters usually don’t like to be caught. Will never forget the time I caught a girl who’s family just moved to the Midwest due to Katrina. She was very rough and you could tell she did not have a good home life. Her Family where all either in prison or wanted for major felony warrants. She told me that she would have her people take care of me and she was not joking. Later that night there was a car filled with her “Crew” with Bats and guns just waiting for me to come outside. Little did they know my office is a 100,000 dollar camera room and I could tell what they where up to before I left the building. The local law enforcement had there hands full with all of them. No doubt in my mind that if I would have walked outside without knowing they where there I would not be here today!

A year before this incident another good friend working loss prevention got into a scuffle with a shoplifter in the parking lot. When he was down on the ground fighting with the lifter, the lifters getaway ride driver jumped out of a car and placed a pistol against his head and told him to let his friend go or DIE. The only reason he did not shoot is because he would have also shot his friend. The lifter was released and they took off. They where later involved with a shoot out with local PD. Before the shoplifters hit our store they robbed a local DQ and killed two employees’ working there.

So needless to say I have been waiting for my 23rd birthday. Got a G23 for my 21st birthday and cant wait to carry.

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Thanks for sharing. I'm glad you're still here with us. Good luck on the police-officer schooling.
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Old 09-04-2007, 23:42   #75
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Thanks for sharing. I'm glad you're still here with us. Good luck on the police-officer schooling.
Thanks a lot, it's my dream job.



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Old 09-05-2007, 13:35   #76
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Nothing specific(yet) but in my line of work you get threats sometimes and just the general non sense you read in papers today and see on TV and think...if someone had a CC there he could have stopped that/saved him/herself and family...so thats why...If it comes down to it im GOING to be that guy..In this day and age when PD's are stretched too thin already its kinda DAFT to think that when you call 911 they will get there B4 something "bad" happens...yeah its possible but not probable...so you need to protect yourself and your family.
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Old 09-05-2007, 16:08   #77
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I was having health problems and it would literally take me a full minute or more to exit my car. There were a lot more carjackings than there are now and I realized I was a good target. Got a permit, and also got better. Now, depending where I go, I may take a gun along.
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Old 09-05-2007, 16:55   #78
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I grew up with guns in rural New Mexico and would shoot my father's .38 Super semi-auto pistol from the age of 12 out in the pastures. When I left home to go to college in AZ, I had a Ruger Redhawk revolver that I kept in the car all the time. I've always had a pistol at home for protection and have always had a pistol in the car as long as the state I lived in allowed it. I was in the Army for several years and was stationed in California for a few years. They don't allow loaded guns (or unloaded as I recall) to be carried in the passenger compartment of cars, so it's mostly just the criminals that do so. I spent three years in Hawaii. Great place to live, but they're worse than California when it comes to guns. Following Hawaii, came back to AZ after getting out of the Army. Nice to be able to carry a gun in the car again. When I found out that you could get a CCW several years ago, I thought about it, but never followed through. I had a gun in the car and kept guns in the house with an alarm system and a small dog, so I figured I was covered pretty well for any road rage incident or home invasion.

The wake-up call came when some guy tried to steal a truck from right in front of our office building in broad daylight, immediately outside my office window on the ground level a couple of months ago. It was our receptionist's truck and she was yelling at him trying to stop him from getting into her truck (she was not in the truck at the time). He got in and was trying to get it started with some key he had. A delivery guy was in the parking lot and was helping her try to get the guy out of her truck by banging on the driver's side window. The guy couldn't get the truck started, so he got out of the truck and started yelling at them and threatening them. Another co-worker was on the phone to 911 telling them to get the police here as soon as possible. I grabbed one of the guys that works for me and we went outside. As we walked outside I kept my eyes on the guy's hands to make sure he didn't have any weapons and wasn't reaching into his pockets. The guy was still threatening the receptionist and the delivery guy and when we went outside, he came towards us and took a swing at each of us. I side-stepped the punch and tackled the guy to the pavement, landing on top of him and pinning his arm behind his back. I held him down until the police arrived about five minutes later. Turns out he was a felon with previous theft and burglary charges. He's currently serving an 18-month sentence in prison.

The adrenaline rush during that episode was an experience. I could barely talk for about 30 minutes because my throat was so dry. I had to drink a bunch of water and calm down before I could speak in complete sentences. A couple of days later, I scheduled the CCW class. I also bought a Mossberg 12-gauge security shotgun for the house. After I got my CCW permit, I bought a Glock 23 and a 27, along with a few holsters. I pretty much am either carrying or within 15 feet of a gun most of the time. I also now carry pepper spray and a one-handed opening folding knife (Kershaw or Gerber) or a hideaway knife in a sheath on a chain around my neck at all times.

I've taken both my kids and wife to the range and they've shot everything we own, including the shotgun with 00 buckshot.

I still worry about them every time I read some story about an attempted abduction or home invasion or some other random violent act by some drug user or violent criminal, but I think I'm prepared and protected more than most people.
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Old 09-05-2007, 17:19   #79
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Defining moment? The summer of 1776. It was really hot out. This guy Tom wrote this awesome document ... all men are created equal ... life, liberty, pursuit of happiness .... good stuff. It made me think.
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Old 09-05-2007, 18:01   #80
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I decided to carry simply because I am a firearms enthusiast living in a state that allows it.

I find a lot of people who decide to carry after encountering some life altering event are not truly prepared to do so. Firstly deciding to CCW because something has happened to you is a reactionary measure. A lot of these people think buying and carrying a gun is the solution to their newly found problem (fear of assault, family safety, death).

These owners are often not "gun" people and furthermore lack the skills and experience needed to safely carry and use a firearm. Many of these types of people think simply showing or pointing their weapong will resolve a deadly situation in the favor. They are sorely mistaken.

If you decide to start carrying a gun because of a negative event you have witnessed and encountered, get the proper training, to include mental preparation for taking another human's life.
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