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Old 09-11-2007, 19:34   #1
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Guilty!!!!

That took quite sometime, but justice is served.

Too bad Jinggoy and Serapio got away...
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Old 09-11-2007, 19:38   #2
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http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakin...ticle_id=88113
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"We like to talk about (or be told about) Democracy but, when put to the test, usually find it to be an 'inconvenience.' We have opted instead for an authoritarian system *disguised* as a Democracy. We pay through the nose for an enormous joke-of-a-government, let it push us around, and then wonder how all those *******s got in there."
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Old 09-11-2007, 19:45   #3
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http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakin...ticle_id=88113
The penalty is reclusion perpetua, which as per Revised Penal code is:

Art. 27. Reclusion perpetua. — Any person sentenced to any of the perpetual penalties shall be pardoned after undergoing the penalty for thirty years, unless such person by reason of his conduct or some other serious cause shall be considered by the Chief Executive as unworthy of pardon.
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Old 09-11-2007, 19:46   #4
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Good! Hope he is treated no differently from others who are sentenced to life.
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Old 09-11-2007, 20:00   #5
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Hehehe!!!

Think of this...to a lot of people their main parameter for A FAIR TRIAL/JUDGEMENT is when the verdict favors them.

Adversely...then...then...you can count up to a hundred accusations towards the judge(s), justice(s), the administration, the govt. as a whole, the police, the armed forces, the clerk of court, my maid, my dog, the weather etc etc etc.
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Old 09-11-2007, 20:16   #6
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hindi ba there is this law(?) regarding convicted prisoners who can be set free at age 70?
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Old 09-11-2007, 20:26   #7
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50 Million Pesos is the minimum amount to be tried for plunder. A lot of government officials stole more than that. Eraps only mistake was taking too much too quick and not watching his six. Poor bastard.
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Old 09-11-2007, 20:27   #8
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hindi ba there is this law(?) regarding convicted prisoners who can be set free at age 70?
Does that include plunder or heinous crimes?
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Old 09-11-2007, 20:38   #9
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hindi ba there is this law(?) regarding convicted prisoners who can be set free at age 70?
The chief presidential counsel (aged 70) told tv news that this provision only applies to those sentenced to death. But for Erap his exact words were "hanggang sa mamatay sya sa kulungan" or 120 years old whichever comes first.
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Old 09-11-2007, 20:41   #10
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I don't have the law with me..perhaps a BoG prosecutor or judge can answer this? However, for questions on labor law, I'm your man.

AFAIK the only thing about age 70 that I could remember is that you can no longer be executed. But since the death penalty is no more...

Erap may have been a lot of things to a lot of people, but I do remember that, once, he spoke out in favor of gun ownership.
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Old 09-11-2007, 21:23   #11
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BS decision

Don't get me wrong, I'm HAPPY that he was found guilty, but c'mon, just him?!?!? As if a man can hide more than 50 million from Jueteng etc. ALONE, setup bank accounts to hide it ALONE, without the knowledge of his legal counsel or his family members?!?!?

Kung guilty siya, guilty din yung iba, in fact kulang pa yung na-accuse! I'm sure a lot of other guys had a share in that! What about the guys who stepped forward claiming the Jose Velarde account?!?!? Di ba perjury din yun? And Atong Ang, what about him?

Let's not forget that for a crime like this, done on a nationwide scale, there a whole lot more of people involved.
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Old 09-11-2007, 21:28   #12
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Re: BS decision

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Don't get me wrong, I'm HAPPY that he was found guilty, but c'mon, just him?!?!? As if a man can hide more than 50 million from Jueteng etc. ALONE, setup bank accounts to hide it ALONE, without the knowledge of his legal counsel or his family members?!?!?

Kung guilty siya, guilty din yung iba, in fact kulang pa yung na-accuse! I'm sure a lot of other guys had a share in that! What about the guys who stepped forward claiming the Jose Velarde account?!?!? Di ba perjury din yun? And Atong Ang, what about him?

Let's not forget that for a crime like this, done on a nationwide scale, there a whole lot more of people involved.
Amen. The problem with Erap was that he violated the 11th Commandment:

"THOU SHALT NOT GET CAUGHT."

I could recall how terrified I was during the so-called EDSA-3; I lived in Ermita, not far from Malacañang, I never left my place.
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Old 09-11-2007, 21:35   #13
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chavit watchout.......

jingoy is free, he was asked before what will he he do if the verdict for his case is not guilty. He said that he will get back on chavit.

Erap on presidential pardon, he was very vocal that he will not accept any pardon from GMA. He rather stick it our at munti. I believe him but on 2010 we will have another president only three years from now i bet my 2 cents he will be pardoned by that elected president and erap will accept it. His main reason will be "iam too old already and i want to spend my remaining days with my loved ones though im still inocent"
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Old 09-11-2007, 21:37   #14
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[QUOTE]Erap may have been a lot of things to a lot of people, but I do remember that, once, he spoke out in favor of gun ownership./QUOTE]

Until he started to listen to Ping Lacson and okayed the proposal of Lacson not to issue PTCFOR's anymore.
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Old 09-11-2007, 21:41   #15
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Right. It was after Lacson was booted out along with Erap that I was able to get a PTC again.
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:39   #16
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Ok this administration proved it's point, BUT I'd be more convinced if this administration COULD CONVICT it's own people who are alleged perpetrators of massive scams as well Fertilizer and ZTE perhaps how.
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:50   #17
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Right, bro, it's only now that the 70's era highway scam (remember that rough and dusty highway up north?) was decided by the Supreme Court.
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:11   #18
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:28   #19
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I heard over the radio this morning, mike enriquez jokingly announced that once erap is convicted and jailed at muntinlupa, it will be declared a republic. Erap is the president, trillanes the senator, jalosjos the congressman, and sanchez,the mayor...lots of councilors and barangay captains there..
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Old 09-12-2007, 08:27   #20
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You guys are correct about "him" getting caught. What about the other 99% (I am being subtle) the moment they get elected, appointed or whatever start divesting the very office they were sworn to protect and uphold of anything they can put their hands on?

Criminals in the United States when caught go to jail. Criminals in the Philippines when about to get caught go to United States.
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