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Old 01-27-2015, 16:17   #1
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Mid Length Gas Question

I'm on my first AR build, the mid length 16" upper barreled assembly has shipped, but I still need to order a buffer tube, spring and buffer.

Question is; What buffer and spring combination should I use?

I'd like to order good quality parts and buy them together with a 7075 aluminum buffer tube.
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Old 01-27-2015, 17:18   #2
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I went with one of these from BCM, it's pretty nice and the price is right.


http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Stock...rdware-kit.htm
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Old 01-27-2015, 17:24   #3
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BCM is good I got this one 2 days ago as im also parting together a rifle was $42 with the shipping. Im also probably going with a 16" upper mid length BCM complete upper(well minus handguards).

https://www.primaryarms.com/Anderson...buffer-kit.htm

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Old 01-27-2015, 17:37   #4
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BCM kit with H buffer.
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BCM kit with H buffer.
This. You might even get away with a standard buffer. I have standard buffers on two of my mid-length ARs and one of them is a 14.5". I have a "H" buffer on one of my 16" mid-lengths. It all depends on how you want it.
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BCM kit with H buffer.
Thirded.
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I always start with asking the barrel maker what he recommends.

Barring that I start with a standard carbine buffer and spring.

I might try a H buffer or H2 but I'm more interested in reliability than I am with taming the punishing massive recoil from a 5.56. A carbine buffer will generally provide the best reliability with the most loads. Its all downhill from there.
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I've never had a problem with an H buffer, but then again I don't run weak steel import ammo.
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It's a midlength, a standard carbine buffer is fine. The recoil is nothing.

I run lots of cheap steel cased ammo and 5.56 through mine. The recoil hasn't knocked me down yet.
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Agee with the above from BCM as I have a BCM LW Midlength.

However, Give the A5 stock and buffer a try. Rifle smoothness and gentleness compared to a carbine buffer and tube.
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Agee with the above from BCM as I have a BCM LW Midlength.

However, Give the A5 stock and buffer a try. Rifle smoothness and gentleness compared to a carbine buffer and tube.
I had to look up that A5 Vltor. It's interesting, and when it comes to some things... I like 'interesting' () but it's not for me.

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BCM kit with H buffer.
That sure looks like the way to go.

I've done some research about springs and ran across this:


I'll probably get that too.
http://damageindustriesllc.com/produ...action-carbine
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I had to look up that A5 Vltor. It's interesting, and when it comes to some things... I like 'interesting' () but it's not for me.



That sure looks like the way to go.

I've done some research about springs and ran across this:

AR-15 Buffer Springs - More than you need to know - YouTube

I'll probably get that too.
http://damageindustriesllc.com/produ...action-carbine
I'd rather staple my dick to the dining table than take James Yeager's advice on anything.



That said, I like the Tubb flatwire buffer springs.
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I'd rather staple my dick to the dining table than take James Yeager's advice on anything.



That said, I like the Tubb flatwire buffer springs.

Don't hold back!


I'm gonna try a Tubb spring in my carbine.
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I've never had a problem with an H buffer, but then again I don't run weak steel import ammo.
I won't be buying any cheap steel ammo, but I will have an opportunity to shoot some of it, would be good to know how much of a power margin I'll have with that.
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I'd rather staple my dick to the dining table than take James Yeager's advice on anything.



That said, I like the Tubb flatwire buffer springs.
Okay, now I know who James Yeager is

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The Tubb spring SOUNDS interesting but in 20 years around the platform I've never once heard or seen ANYONE have a problem with spring in an AR/M16 with the possible exception of a very old worn out spring. I'm sure it solves a problem but I've never understood exactly which problem.
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I would go with a BCM, VLTOR, LMT, or Larue tube.

Colt or BCM spring.

H2 or H3 buffer from BCM or Colt. No Spikes powdered buffers.

An A5 kit would be good too.
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Don't forget the charging handle while your at it!


Put the medium latch one in mine last week and love it, the medium is perfect IMO.


http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-G...-mod-4-556.htm

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Thanks for all the info and the links.
Keep 'em coming is fine by me

Here's another YT I ran across.
Hope this doesn't offend NeverMore like the last one

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