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Old 10-24-2007, 21:19   #1
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PICS: Glock sight roundup (Sevigny, Warren, Dawson / Heine)

The gun with the Dawson / Heinie combination is my IDPA gun: A G34.

The gun with the Sevigny Competition sights is my carry gun: A G19.

The gun with the Warren Tactical fiber-optic (FO) sights is a friends G34. He just bought it for IDPA use, and I installed the sights for him. While I had his slide, I went ahead and took some pictures of the 3 guns together.

More info on the Dawson/Heinie setup: http://www.gunracing.com/Qstore/Qsto...ROD=1101241117

The Sevigny Competition set: (Good pictures here)
http://www.warrentacticalseries.com/sights.htm

The Warren Tactical set: (His website only really shows the Sevigny flavor)
http://www.warrentacticalseries.com/sights.htm


These first few pictures are taken very close to the rear notch. Just like holding the gun up against your face, the rear notch looks HUGE and the front post looks abnormally tiny, but they're good comparison pics.

IT'S TAKING ABOUT 3 MINUTES TO UPLOAD EACH PICTURE. THIS COULD TAKE A WHILE. ONE DOWN, THIRTEEN TO GO...
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Old 10-24-2007, 21:27   #2
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Pic #2, another 'distorted' view of the three sight pictures side-by-side.
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Old 10-24-2007, 21:35   #3
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(EDIT: Referring to the third picture, below)

This would have been a beautiful picture, but I 'missed' slightly and didn't catch it.

This is pretty much exatly what you see through the sights: I positioned the camera lens about an arm's length away from the rear sights. All 3 sets offer fairly similar sight pictures, as you can see...

OKAY. I'm done! It's been 20 minutes, and I'm still on the third picture... Uploading 'em elsewhere right now, and I'll just link the stupid things!
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Old 10-24-2007, 21:51   #4
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Here's all of the pictures, no waiting:

Sights, Optics and Lasers

Sights, Optics and Lasers

Sights, Optics and Lasers

Sights, Optics and Lasers

Sights, Optics and Lasers

Sights, Optics and Lasers

Sights, Optics and Lasers

Sights, Optics and Lasers

Sights, Optics and Lasers

Sights, Optics and Lasers

Sights, Optics and Lasers

Sights, Optics and Lasers

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Old 10-24-2007, 21:56   #5
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Oh, and here's two more of my guns from outdoors, a couple of days back...

These two pics show how critical camera distance is. The Sevignys look about right, while the Heinie/Dawson set (which has a similar amount of air on either side of the front sight) looks like the rear sight is REALLY wide.

Sights, Optics and Lasers


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Old 10-25-2007, 05:19   #6
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Dave sent me a set of his sights to try on my G34. I have never used a thin front before. The Sevigny rear notch is just too wide for me. I stuck a Heinie rear on just to see how it looked. I think I may like it better as the notch is not as wide. I will shoot it for a while then try the Sevigny rear.
OTOH I have a G35 in for a trigger job. It has a set of Dawson Precision sights that I like. The front is thin like the Sevigny, but the adjustable rear has a much more shallow rear notch. The width is the same as the Heinie rear.
In dry firing the G34 I find myself searching for the correct up and down alignment with a deep rear notch and tall thin front.
The G35, with the Dawson set, seems to align much faster.
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I've heard that complaint before, but I've never had the problem myself. Actually, I personally have the opposite problem. With a narrower rear, I spend more time getting my sight picture back than with a wide one.

My Heinie race-cut rear is opened up to the same width as the Sevigny/Warren sets. The sights pictures are extremely similar.

Honestly, I think it's mostly a matter of getting used to all the open space surrounding the front post. I was worried about it during 2 days of dryfire following my first 'race sight' installation. Then I shot them in a match and picked up quite a bit of speed. Haven't looked back.

Where'd you send your gun for the trigger job? Vanek? I thought you were the same Joe D that posted all those DIY trigger-mod tips on brianenos.com, but if you're sending your gun out, maybe not.
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Old 10-25-2007, 08:19   #8
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Same Joe D. A fellow shooter gave me his G35 to do a trigger job on. I am going to try the Sevigny front, Heinie rear at a match Saturday. I measured the notch in the Dawson rear. It is .115" wide by .090" deep.
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Great pictures... I'm new to this forum and Glocks, I plan on participating in IDPA. Wasn't able to purchase a new G34 in MA, so I purchased a pre-ban G17 with stock sights. Based on your pictures I'm leaning toward the Heine Race-Cut/Dawson FO. Question... if I buy from Gun Racing how much will it typically cost to do the installation?

Thanks in advance for your help.
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Old 10-25-2007, 13:31   #10
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The Dawson/Heine set is my favorite. Highest quality, and they all have VERY similar sight pictures. That said, they run over $100 with the race-cut rear sight, to widen it up as much as the Warren & Sevigny ones.

If I were doing it again, and wanted the BEST sights, I'd go with the Dawson/Heinie set I'm currently using. But if you're stretching your budget to get any sights, the Sevignys will let you shoot just as fast for about $40 less.

You can install the sights yourself if you can round up a brass punch, some red loctite, and a vise bolted to something sturdy. Here's how I've installed 11sets of Glock sights, without a $100 sight-pusher:
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showpost...00&postcount=7
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Old 10-26-2007, 08:10   #11
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Thanks for the informative response, I really appreciate it.
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Great pics!

A little off topic BUT, where do you get the cardboard target backing in the background?
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Can you measure how wide the rear cuts are and how wide the front blades are for each set please? Id appreciate it
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Old 10-26-2007, 19:54   #14
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Great pics!

A little off topic BUT, where do you get the cardboard target backing in the background?

That's a standard IDPA cardboard target. Go on the IDPA website to find places to order them:
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Old 10-27-2007, 00:19   #15
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How wide is the front of your Dawson FO? Also, does the Heine/Dawson combo shoot to POA at 15yd? 25yd? Thanks.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:07   #16
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Can you measure how wide the rear cuts are and how wide the front blades are for each set please? Id appreciate it
I'll do it sometime this week. Maybe tonight, if I have time.

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How wide is the front of your Dawson FO? Also, does the Heine/Dawson combo shoot to POA at 15yd? 25yd? Thanks.
The Dawson front is .105" according to their website.

All 3 sight sets shoot perfectly to point-of-aim. The bullet lands in the center of the sight picture left-to-right, and right at the top of the front sight.
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Old 10-29-2007, 13:50   #18
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With all the discussion on this forum about sights, I have to say this is one of the best posts I have seen. I hope the moderators consider making this a sticky. Nice pics and thanks for the work that went into this. THIS is why we all read these boards.
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Old 10-29-2007, 15:00   #19
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You covered it like a true master!
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Old 10-29-2007, 18:33   #20
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This site rocks!! I have a G34 and shoot IDPA with it. The race cut Warrens are what I am looking for but I have a stupid question. How do you adjust the elevation on these sights? My factory sight is also adjusted fully right, I am looking at the picts and think the sight might drift slightly off the slide. Newbie here, thanks. Sammy
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