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Old 11-12-2007, 22:30   #1
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House Bill 1744 vote Nov 14

I just read on Pafoa.org that HB 1744 may go up for vote November 14.

If you haven't read this bill, you may be shocked at the changes in it. One thing that really jumped at me was the striking of the phrase "handgun" and replacing it with "firearm". This would make FFL transfers required on all in state private firearm sales, handgun or long gun.

I was really disappointed to see that my Rep voted for this garbage after previously claiming to be opposed to gun control legislation.

Start writing now and send your comments to all of the Representatives.

Link to the bill:

Link to vote roll call:

PA House Roster:
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01 Harkins pharkins@pahouse.net
02 Fabrizio ffabrizi@pahouse.net
03 Hornaman jhornama@pahouse.net
04 Sonney csonney@pahousegop.com
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20 Walko dwalko@pahouse.net
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86 Keller mkeller@pahousegop.com
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118 Carroll mcarroll@pahouse.net
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125 Seip tseip@pahouse.net
126 Santoni dsantoni@pahouse.net
127 Caltagirone tcaltagi@pahouse.net
128 Rohrer srohrer@pahousegop.com
129 Cox jcox@pahousegop.com
130 Kessler dkessler@pahouse.net
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132 Mann jmann@pahouse.net
133 Brennan jbrennan@pahouse.net
134 Reichley dreichle@pahousegop.com
135 Samuelson ssamuels@pahouse.net
136 Freeman rfreeman@pahouse.net
137 Grucela rgrucela@pahouse.net
138 Dally cdally@pahousegop.com
139 Peifer mpeifer@pahousegop.com
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141 Melio amelio@pahouse.net
142 King cking@pahouse.net
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169 O'Brien dobrien@pahousegop.com
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180 Cruz acruz@pahouse.net
181 Thomas cthomas@pahouse.net
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184 Keller wkeller@pahouse.net
185 Donatucci rdonatuc@pahouse.net
186 James hjames@pahouse.net
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197 Williams jwilliam@pahouse.net
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Old 11-12-2007, 22:52   #2
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While I do not support this bill, unless I am missing something, it doesn't apply to long guns. "Firearms" as defined in section 6102 is:

"Firearm." Any pistol or revolver with a barrel length less than 15 inches, any shotgun with a barrel length less than 18 inches or any rifle with a barrel length less than 16 inches, or any pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun with an overall length of less than 26 inches. The barrel length of a firearm shall be determined by measuring from the muzzle of the barrel to the face of the closed action, bolt or cylinder, whichever is applicable.

As I said, I may have missed something, but this looks to me like it still only applies to what we non lawyer types would call handguns.

Never the less, this is poor legislation and should be opposed.
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:56   #3
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I received this reply from my Rep. today:

Thank you for your e-mail and your concerns. However, I believe there is some confusion. HB 1744 is a "crimes code" bill that increases the penalty for those who "knowingly" possess a stolen firearm (receiving stolen property -- ie... a criminal act). The bill also authorizes the Attorney General the ability to enforce current gun laws (which are already on the books). Quiet frankly, this is a common sense bill that does not affect law abiding citizens (gun owners) and this is why it passed the Judiciary Committee unanimously.

I hope that this short explanation of this HB 1744 helps.

ETA: n3hcp, thanks for the response and clarification. I was not aware of that definition, although nothing is stopping them from redefining the term "firearm" in the future.
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