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02-03-2008, 08:44
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Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Canfield Ohio USA
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Cops with CCW
I am a full time Officer.I acquired an Ohio CCW Permit years ago just before President Bush signed H.B.218 into Law.This was the Bill that allows Police Officer's to Carry Off Duty anywhere in the Country.
My theory when I applied for the Permit was recipriocity with other states.An Officer carrying out of State at that time was not guaranteed any special Perks if stopped by an out of state agency(Professional Courtesy, as it is called).Ohio's Permit at that time covered approximately 7-8 other states.
Anyhow , here is my question.My Ohio Permit expires in 3 months.Is there any advantages in reapplying for Ohio's Permit?
Mickey
P.S. I am often asked what I think about people carrying guns with a permit.I tell them that Ohio was long overdue.The bad guys always carry.Anywhere and anytime.Why should any Officer be concerned with someone willing to go through a backround check, and training in order to responsibly carry a Firearm.
The best comeback I heard recently about people with CCW permits was this,"Why do you carry a gun?"" Because carrying a Cop would be to heavy."
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02-03-2008, 09:04
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 167
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you are good to go in all 50 states under h.b.218,you don't need a ccw.Just keep your badge and i.d. card with you. A retiree needs to make sure he's authorized to carry on his i.d. Medical retirement could be a problem. Be careful in Kalifonia.Some agency's WILL! confiscate on the spot,the standard answer is if you don't like it,sue us.We do as we please.
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02-03-2008, 09:16
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Central Ohio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mickey
My Ohio Permit expires in 3 months.Is there any advantages in reapplying for Ohio's Permit?
Mickey
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Mickey, thank you for your service and also for having gotten your CHL.
YES, please renew your CHL. You've stated your positive attitude towards those who carry. I thank you for that. But, also, we need strength in numbers. If we have a large drop off in numbers over the next couple years, we lose the credibility with the Legislature that we have now with over 106,000 licensees. If the numbers drop off, it gives fuel to the anti's that "see, the public majority doesn't see a need for concealed carry". So please, if for no other reason, help us keep our numbers up. $55 is a small price to pay to help us civilians fight to keep our gun rights.
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02-03-2008, 09:42
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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A friend wrote:
"You are good to go in all 50 states under h.b.218,you don't need a ccw.Just keep your badge and i.d. card with you."
Don't do that. Renew your CHL. Have a concealed handgun license for all the states you travel in wherever possible.
THE REASON is that your CHL is a personal license to carry a weapon, while your shield and ID card must always involve your employer - your department. There are thousands of missing shields and ID cards, just from the NYPD. What is likely to happen if you claim the right to carry on your shield in a far flung state is that the agency making the stop may CALL YOUR HOME AGENCY to verify your identification.
There are MANY circumstances in which you don't always want to identify yourself as a police officer when travelling away from home. I won't list them here because they might be provocative to some. Suffice to say, "It's good to have your own armed citizen's license to carry a pistol. "
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02-04-2008, 06:27
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ohio
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The real reason to renew is so that the number of CCW license holders continues to go up. The last thing we want to see is people not renewing their license and giving the anti's any type of reason to get CCW revoked.
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02-04-2008, 23:01
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Cleveland Ohio
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Another reason to renew your CCW permit:
If for some reason you are brought up on disiplinary charges at work, your privileges under HR 218 are null and void.
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02-04-2008, 23:38
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: South of Philly
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Rehab
Another reason to renew your CCW permit:
If for some reason you are brought up on disiplinary charges at work, your privileges under HR 218 are null and void.
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That is exactly why I have a CCW. Still able to carry if I get fired, suspended, etc.
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02-06-2008, 09:43
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Land of Buckeyes
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I am also a commissioned peace officer; however, my status is that of a Special Officer. I also have a CHL for the sole purpose of being able to carry what I want without regard to departmental policy. I enjoy the privilege of carrying on two fronts, that of a peace officer and that of a CHL holder. I'm a firm supporter of Ohio CHL and believe that everybody should have the right to carry so long as they are licensed.
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