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Old 07-07-2002, 18:18   #26
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1. FAL
2. Browning
3. Remington

The Remington and Browning offer a large variety of calibers but the FAL is a 308 and that will do everything you need it to in North America and most other continents. However, the Browning and Remington are both more PC looking than the FAL and can go places the FAL can't.
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Old 07-07-2002, 18:24   #27
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Throw my FAL vote on the pile please....;f


With a nice full size ACOG on it....;P


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Old 07-07-2002, 18:32   #28
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M1As are cool.
Why does he want a semi for hunting?
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Old 07-07-2002, 18:37   #29
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My wife also wants another hunting rifle. And she wants a semi-auto. AND she wants one that looks like a hunting rifle, not an "army gun" ;Q
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Old 07-07-2002, 18:55   #30
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Throw my FAL vote on the pile please....;f


With a nice full size ACOG on it....;P


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Old 07-07-2002, 20:56   #31
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A nice bolt action would be better suited for hunting due to it's accuracy. Why does he want a semi to hunt?
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Old 07-07-2002, 21:01   #32
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I guess you never know when it's time to switch from hunting creatures to two legged vermin.... for that the M1A and FAL are also well suited.
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Old 07-07-2002, 21:15   #33
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gemplemums:

Remember that I live in the Occupied Territories of Southern Kalifornia...which means that nearly all centerfire, magazine-fed rifles are verboten for me.

Hubby is currently looking at Springfield M1As...which, unfortunately, are on "allocation", which means Springfield keeps a tight control over how many are shipped out.

Since the M1A is currently one of the few legal mag-fed rifles LEFT that you can buy in Kalifornia (excepting those that are older, such as SKS), there is naturally a high demand for them here...and a correspondingly high price tag. While the MSRP is roughly $1400, I imagine they probably book for $1600 or so in Kali. I hate this state. ;t

I don't believe the FN FAL is legal in Kalifornia any more.
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Old 07-07-2002, 21:25   #34
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Compare total price.

.308 almost a dollar a boom
7.62x39 a few cents a boom.

Go out with a SAR-1, $300, slap a scope on it, grab a 40 round clip, and go hunt some deer!!!
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Old 07-07-2002, 21:25   #35
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There were many hunting rifles that came and went with this deer hunter, the last being a REM 7400 in .270 which I used for a trade to take some of the sting out of the price of my Springfield MIA. I am totally happy with .308
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Old 07-07-2002, 21:27   #36
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Also, why is a bolt action always so inherently more accurate then a semi? If they have the same rifling and the same length barrel, wouldnt that be really all that mattered? Or does the energy spent ejecting the round and recycling the action hurt accuracy and velocity?
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Old 07-07-2002, 21:27   #37
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.308 almost a dollar a boom

Are you nuts?
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Old 07-07-2002, 21:48   #38
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Are you nuts?
I don't know, I might very well be.

http://natchezss.com/ammo/rifle/ra308win.html

Over here they have it from 15-22 for a pack of 20.. so my limited math ability looks like this $20/20rds=1 per round. As an average. I did see 15 dollar boxes, so once again the nut math $15/20rds=.75 per 1 round.

Am i looking at the wrong place or wrong caliber?
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Old 07-07-2002, 22:32   #39
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Just checked out Springfield's site...

...and looked at the White Feather.

OH MY LORD!!!

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Figures that any rifle endorsed by Carlos Hathcock would be over FOUR THOUSAND FREAKIN' DOLLARS!

And I thought Steyrs were expensive. ;P
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Old 07-07-2002, 22:36   #40
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GlockM23:

It looks like the the rounds that are in the upper fifteen to twenty range are either match-grade or specialty rounds, i.e., "X rounds" or "Nosler Ballistic" rounds.

I guess this is more expensive because of more gunpowder, larger bullet...dunno, I know JACK about rifles except Mausers and SKS and even those I'm not too good about the ammo. I just point at the box and they give it to me. ;f
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Old 07-07-2002, 22:54   #41
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I was disappointed with my Mini-14 and wanted better quality in 308 so I could hunt with it. I hoped for the same size rifle.

After much searching I found the H&K SL7! A wonderful rifle built in the military style like the Mini-14.
http://www.hkpro.com/sl7.htm

Its fancy brother is the hunting rifle version of the SL7 and is called the 770.
http://www.hkpro.com/hk770.htm

Both of these use H&K's proven "91" type action but are installed in wooden stocks that do not offend the gun grabbers like the synthetic "assault rifles" do.

I hear that H&K has a new semi-auto hunting rifle on the market but I'm yet to see one.

I also own a couple of the old BARs and feel they are top quality.
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Old 07-08-2002, 00:03   #42
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Another vote for the Armalite AR-10. And yes I have one too. Also the gun dealer that I bought it from in Virginia. Said that he has taken many deer and elk with his AR-10. The AR-10 is lighter than the M1, FAL, and H&k91. Also the recoil is very low. Also Armalite has the best customer service. They also have a full lifetime warranty. And the time I did have to use there warranty. It was great. 2.5 week turnaround and no cost to me. They even paid for the shipping. And the AR-10 is very accurate. Your husband will love you if you get him an AR-10. The most popular model is the AR-10A4. You can also get it in camo. The match grade is the AR-10T models. Go to :www.armalite.com
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Old 07-08-2002, 02:23   #43
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I heard you cant use JHP in the AR-10. I could be wrong I have never shot one but thats what I read somewhere.
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Old 07-08-2002, 02:45   #44
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i still like my suggestion, as the SR-25 is based off the AR-10 ;a
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Old 07-08-2002, 06:18   #45
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I'm a big fan of the M1 Garand and would like to hunt with mine. (I have two) I think it would make a great hunting rifle, but is a little heavy. It should be easy to get in Cali. You can get an adjustable gas plug (I don't have one yet) that would allow you to shoot just about any hunting load you want. Get it from the CMP for about $500 and you also have a real, G.I. weapon. Though not in new condition, mine are very-good to excellent. www.odcmp.com.

That said, I'm looking into a nice bolt action .30'06.
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Old 07-08-2002, 06:27   #46
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I use a turnbolt and never could understand using an evil assault rifle for hunting non-humans. But like Arnold said "Diff'rent strokes"

I was deer hunting once and was surprised to hear a string of 30 rounds of quick semi-auto from behind a nearby hill. I don't know if the guy killed anything or not but he sure convinced me to leave.


Before I get flamed I should add that I DO beleive every citizen should be issued an M16 for militia use...
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Old 07-08-2002, 07:19   #47
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Originally posted by chevrofreak i still like my suggestion, as the SR-25 is based off the AR-10
Actually, I think the AR-10 is based off of the SR-25, technically. ;-) In either case, I agree with Chevro; the SR-25 is going to be a difficult rifle to beat as far as accuracy goes. The problem is, as G&KL points out, California. I don't believe the Stoner/Knight's rifles are legal there. Grrr.

Sharpshooter, historically, bolt action rifles have indeed been more accurate than semis. But it's just not the case any longer. An accurized semi-automatic rifle such as one from Knight's (Stoner) will hold its own against just about any bolt you can throw at it. If the bolt action wins in accuracy, it'll only be by a small amount; not enough to make a difference when your accuracy needs to be Minute-of-Deer.

Hailstorm: a Barrett M82A would be mighty handy for making instant, one-shot venison stew. :-) That's just funny.

G&KL: Other than the SR-25s (or, more specifically, a Mk11 Mod 0.. :-)) I'm not sure what to suggest. What happened to moving to Colorado; did that fall through? I guess that's my suggestion: move. ;f (I jest, of course.)

As for the rifle rounds, yes, the "expensive" ones are typically match loads. Ultra accurate, nice, flat, predictable trajectory, and almost always done in hollow points. They just make for better match rounds. And, since they are hollow points, they'd probably make for excellent hunting rounds as well. *SPLAT*

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Old 07-08-2002, 07:27   #48
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Kalifornia Legal FAL Available Here

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Old 07-08-2002, 07:29   #49
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ok so i dont know when they were designed, but i do know the SR-25 is awesome ;a

just kinda assumed it was the SR-25 off the AR-10 since the AR-10 has been around since the 60's or 70's
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Old 07-08-2002, 07:32   #50
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With all the great bolt action rifles running around, why would one "try" to find a semiauto rifle that has acceptable weight to oomph ratio, not to mention accuracy standards, for hunting?

There's a difference between picking a semiauto rifle that "does it all" and finding a rifle strictly for hunting.

Why would one try to pack a ten pounds .308 semiauto rifle for hunting when a seven pounds bolt action does the same job if not better?
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