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Old 10-28-2008, 15:24   #126
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Now, Lone Wolf should take their skills/connections and go design a single-stack pocket 9 that has Glock reliability, and sell it for a reasonable price. I would probably buy 2.
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Old 10-28-2008, 16:19   #127
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You are correct sir. So much against FG's that I only own 1 - 3rd Gen Fullsize GLOCK and that is a G35 with the FGs removed. Believe me, I own many GLOCKs, but have to settle for 2nd Gen guns. Gaston can't sell me on FG's, so I doubt you will. BHP's, 1911's, Berettas, Rugers, S&W's, M&P's, XD's, Sigs - none of them have FG's, why would you want to add them is beyond me. I don't see anybody adding FG's to GLOCKs, only taking them off.

As I learn to do frame mods myself, I plan to get some more 3rd Gen Guns. Like I said, I hope you sell tons of these so I can get some factory frames at a reasonable price.

Good Luck in your endeavor!
I guess Hogue and Pachmayr didnt consult you before they started making finger groove grips. But those companies stopped making them because noone bought them...wait, no they didnt, because people do buy them.

JR, I hope they are a success and you make them for the G23 as well.
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Old 10-28-2008, 17:36   #128
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Not so sure about that. If the CCF is legal in ESP with a G34 upper then why would this one not be.
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Old 10-28-2008, 17:43   #129
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Wow, just thinking about an all LWD 19/23 with built in Laser. Could the search for the "perfect carry gun" be near.
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Old 10-28-2008, 17:54   #130
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The frame is not featured on our web site because the information is not officially released. We simply figured GT has been good to us over the years so we would "privately" release the information here before anybody else seen or heard of it. LWD will be attending the Tulsa OK gun show November 7-9. If you would like to see this new replacement frame first hand we will have a couple of the rapid prototypes at this show for your inspection.

The frames will fit the G17,17L,22,24,31,34,35,37. The next production will be for the G20,21. The G19,23 are last on the list.

The replacement frame use all the standard Glock parts with the exception of the magazine release, which is the new oversized "round style".

The bump on the replaceable grip is a laser activation switch. The optional laser system is integral with the frame.

The target price of the frame is under $200. I am sure we will take huge steps to offer the initial run at further discounts to GT members.

The finger grips are the best we have ever seen, they fit both large & small hands alike.

The frame is considered the firearm. It has its own serial number. It must be transferred through a FFL.
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I just ordered a 21 barrel for my 21SF yesterday... it gives me warm-fuzzies when shooting reloads.

When the 21 frame comes out, if it really is under $200, I'll get in line for sure.

Thanks for providing the excellent customer service many of us have come to enjoy. My Glocks are better for it.
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Old 10-28-2008, 22:50   #131
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Ok a lot of questions

What holsters and Surefire X--- DG switch will work with your receiver

How about a ambi magazine release, always liked the Hk USP lever and it would seem to me it would be easy to make the magazine release modular to allow either button or lever, but then again I'am more qualified to critique warp core harmonics and wizards spells then the mechanics of a Glock

About the laser

1. Is it a Pulse or Steady Beam
2. How long does it run and on what kind of battery
3. is it water resistant
4. If the Diode goes will you replace it or will a new receiver be necessary
5. will it clear a suppressor

Now about the Receiver in General

1. will you offer it with stippling or golfballing on the entire grip instead of just front and rear strap(maybe also do the finger pads near the takedown lever)
2. cuts on the magwell sides for ease extracting magazine(Never had a problem or heard of any but it looks cool)
3. How pronounced is the beavertail(hard to tell from the rendering)
4. If it is possible to expand or bevel to trigger guard to help us ham hands who wear gloves

Any talk about Raven Concealment about making a Phantom Light Compatible Holster

And if you're making it from scratch maybe make it work with XD magazines so I could squeeze an extra round

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I loved the feel of the finger groves on the Walther P99(Not the Smith & Weston crap) just no the rest of the package.

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Old 10-29-2008, 01:24   #132
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Cool I will be making a 22lr gun with one
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:45   #133
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Well...

...I'm excited about it and would really like to fondle one. I also appreciate 'JR' for watching the thread and weighing in. I'm impressed. I really think the 19/23 is the best blend for a carry gun but haven't bought one b/c the slide bites my hand due to my hand hold. The new grip angle and beavertail would be very welcomed.

And...I wouldn't have to wait weeks for an aftermarket shop to modify a factory frame that I can't sell if I ever get rid of the gun.

The next one I'd like to see is 19, then a 26!

Thanks to LWD for introducing what could be a great new product.
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Old 10-29-2008, 11:11   #134
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Our frame will fit any holster designed for the Glock.
We are going with the standard MR that operates from the LH side of the frame. It seems the current factory produced ambi-MR is running into problems with several holsters currently on the market. We want to avoid the trouble

Laser Questions
1. Steady Beam
2. (2) #2032 Button Cell Batteries - about 4 hours of continuous on time.
3. Weather resistant - rain & splash proof - submergence will not damage the unit, but batteries will have to be removed and dried.
4. Diode is replaceable by the factory (or a capable gunsmith)
5. Diode is offset from the bore by just over 3/4" - will probably not clear 1.5" dia suppressors but we are working on it.

Receiver Questions
1. Stippling
2. We agree!
3. Our Beavertail will stop slide bite for sure
4. We have modified a lot of Glock frames over the years. We would not be offended if you decided to cut, grind or chop away at this frame. If your proud of the job maybe you could even share it with us. After all, that is how we got started!
5. Don't know who Raven is? Don't know their product line. If they make a Glock holster ours will fit
6. Glock mags only. If you want extra rounds we recommend Arredondo
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Old 10-29-2008, 12:13   #135
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Why? (scratches head) Now if they really wanted to do something worthwhile, they could make a folding stock tactical carbine that takes Glock mags
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Old 10-29-2008, 12:17   #136
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No one (that I noticed) has commented on the indentation that seems to have been created at the rear of the trigger guard.

If that's what it is, thank you. I will buy four G19's as soon as they are offered, and the factory indentation willl save me the trouble of removing the "bump."
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Old 10-29-2008, 12:23   #137
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Why? (scratches head) Now if they really wanted to do something worthwhile, they could make a folding stock tactical carbine that takes Glock mags
Now it is my turn to scratch my head and ask why. I will never understand the fascination with pistol caliber carbines, but this is a conversation for another time (and thread). Eric
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Old 10-29-2008, 13:25   #138
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Why? (scratches head) Now if they really wanted to do something worthwhile, they could make a folding stock tactical carbine that takes Glock mags
look into Keltec & Olympic Arms
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Old 10-29-2008, 13:26   #139
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I would be interested in a full pistol version, any chance for LEO discounts?
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Old 10-29-2008, 13:44   #140
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So you could actually have a Lone Wolf instead of a Glock. LW frame, slide and barrel. I wonder if they'll start marketing complete guns.
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Old 10-29-2008, 15:57   #141
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Just two little things,
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If the laser is offset by 0.75 of a inch then it should clear most pistol silencers as the common diameter is 1.38 (AAC Evolution .45 is 1.38, SWR HEMS2 .45 is 1.375 and the Gemtech Blackside .45 is 1.37) leaving about 0.12 of a inch, which might(no experience) be enough.
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If you could get the laser to be a pulse type like Lasermax’s, then you should get a more visible laser with twice the run time.
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Your looking good, just some thoughts since you appear to still be in the design phase and could therefore implement changes.
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Old 10-29-2008, 17:43   #142
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It looks like a good product but I would prefer it in .45 acp, I have no probs with the G17/22 frame.
Same here,I would buy one for my G21SF if they make one.
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Old 10-29-2008, 19:55   #143
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Thanks, JR! I might just travel to Tulsa to get my hands on one,
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Old 10-29-2008, 22:43   #144
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I was thinking that I could use another 9mm/40/.357SIG/etc. and 10mm/45ACP frame for competition use, but then I realized that none of the mag funnels would fit.

May have some use for one in the future if they work like Glock frames, and not like the metal aftermarket ones that really need to be built up into a pistol by a gunsmith.
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Old 10-30-2008, 08:13   #145
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I'd like to see them side by side with Glock frames...
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Old 10-30-2008, 19:00   #146
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Now, Lone Wolf should take their skills/connections and go design a single-stack pocket 9 that has Glock reliability, and sell it for a reasonable price. I would probably buy 2.
That sounds like an awesome idea!!!! Single stack lower that would accept 19 or 17 slides!
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Old 10-30-2008, 20:06   #147
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Why...Why....make a copy from a glock for $300, ..for that money of I prefer to get the original.
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Old 10-30-2008, 21:10   #148
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Why...Why....make a copy from a glock for $300, ..for that money of I prefer to get the original.
JR's said a couple of times that they're shooting for sub $200.

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Why? (scratches head) Now if they really wanted to do something worthwhile, they could make a folding stock tactical carbine that takes Glock mags
Because if you combine this frame with a Mech-Tech CCU w/ collapsable stock it would fulfill that roll and run you about $550? Just a thought.
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Old 10-31-2008, 04:50   #149
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Hey JR,

By the looks of how this thread has grown in a few short days and most if not all of the posts are +1...

I would have to say as long as your frame functions as described, you and yours will have quite a hit and turn quite a profit in a relatively short time ...

Best of luck - thanks for the info, finally got it in email yesterday ... as a matter of fact I have product incoming - It's good to be a vendor for Lone Wolf products
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Old 10-31-2008, 06:20   #150
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Why...Why....make a copy from a glock for $300, ..for that money of I prefer to get the original.
There are those that really like the GLOCK deisgn, but don't believe they are perfect.
  • The intergal laser is appealing. The CTC's are awesome, but they do add bulk. I'm sure the Laser Max is a good unit as well, but I prefer it to be activated when I grip the gun.
  • Many of us that really choke up on the gun, tend to get bit by the slide. This makes the beaver tail appealing.
  • Some don't like the grip angle (I've come to like it).
  • A lot of us don't like the spacing on the finger grooves on the compact models, so we're hopeful that the compact will version will have full size finger groove spacing. (Sorry to those that don't like the grooves at all).
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