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Old 10-27-2008, 20:53   #101
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I like the idea, why not right? I'll keep my eye open for the G21 conversion, until then YAWN.
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Old 10-27-2008, 21:16   #102
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The original release is planed as replacement frames only.
Once we get on our feet we will contract to have 2 thousand built. This will qualify the gun to run legal in the SSP (IDPA) and production (USPSA) categories.

We have several well known builders and shooters that provided a lot of input regarding this frame. Believe me when I tell you, every one of them signed off on the finger grips. They are a non issue even to guys that do not want them.
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Old 10-27-2008, 21:27   #103
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The original release is planed as replacement frames only.
Once we get on our feet we will contract to have 2 thousand built. This will qualify the gun to run legal in the SSP (IDPA) and production (USPSA) categories.

We have several well known builders and shooters that provided a lot of input regarding this frame. Believe me when I tell you, every one of them signed off on the finger grips. They are a non issue even to guys that do not want them.
JR - You are not listening - When we say we don't want FG's - We don't want FG's - nuff said! Please do not tell me what is a non-issue!
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Old 10-27-2008, 21:35   #104
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Well then...... it is obvious this frame is not for you. Maybe a few others feel the same way but here is the truth of the matter. I would be happy if 2% Glock owners liked what we have to offer and only 1% purchased.

This project is not a "save all wonder frame". Its an option. An option that has a nitch and we are here to fill it.
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Old 10-27-2008, 21:54   #105
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Well then...... it is obvious this frame is not for you. Maybe a few others feel the same way but here is the truth of the matter. I would be happy if 2% Glock owners liked what we have to offer and only 1% purchased.

This project is not a "save all wonder frame". Its an option. An option that has a nitch and we are here to fill it.
Oh, but you see - it could be a "save all wonder frame" if you'd open the options up and not try to mandate. You may even get some M&P and XD business from people who don't buy GLOCKs because of the FG's. There's lots of money being made taking the FG's off GLOCKs.

I hope you sell tons of them because that'll put more stock frames on the market that I can buy and mod however I want.

I could comment further but it'd serve no purpose. I do think you need to remember what side of the dealer/customer relationship you're on.
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Old 10-27-2008, 21:55   #106
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Plans for G29 and G30 G26 G27? Would be Very cool and Extra concealable
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Old 10-27-2008, 22:04   #107
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I meant no offence. Simply trying to indicate we will not be able to accommodate everyone. I can accept that fact.

You are positively sold on "no FG", but so were several others involved with this project. I tried to explain that this frame circumference is greatly reduced. It allows a completely different grip and the FG do not interfere. Come out to the Tulsa Show in Nov, SAR Show in Dec (Phoenix), SHOT Show in Jan (Orlando) and see for yourself.
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Old 10-27-2008, 22:06   #108
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Hey JR:

Thanks for your input here. I'm going to give you a call this week as I'd like to see how a frame like this would work with my officers with small hands who are challenged with the 17/22 frame (especially with the adjustable backstraps). If the pricepoint is lower than the CCR raceframe, that interests the command staff above me.
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Old 10-27-2008, 22:07   #109
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The next production will be for the G20,21.
Sweet, I can't wait for that
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Old 10-27-2008, 22:15   #110
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Thank you for the additional information JR. Looking forward to that Glock 20 frame.
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Old 10-27-2008, 22:24   #111
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Very nice product, but Ill stick to my stock glock!
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Old 10-27-2008, 22:29   #112
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Like I mentioned before, I'm more interested in the 21 conversion. However, that's just me. I have a 21 sf now and definitely think I would be for a conversion for it. I would have gone the ccf route before, but they weren't available at the time I was looking. I would definitely wait for this. I have a ambi model 21, will the conversion be ambi? I know this is jumping the gun (no pun intended) But the more I look, the more I'm interested. I would also be interested in a conversion for the G30 with a grip to accept the full size grip of the 21sf without the big gap.
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Old 10-28-2008, 02:34   #113
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everyone is a critic. I look forward to buying a lower with a nice 35 lwd upper. or when the 20/21 lower comes out a 5" LWD hunting barrel and upper. positive people. think positive!
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Old 10-28-2008, 05:23   #114
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Very, very cool

I'll be getting one!
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Old 10-28-2008, 08:20   #115
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Can't wait I'm very excited about this...
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Old 10-28-2008, 08:32   #116
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i dont see a big problem with the finger grips, they don't look as pronounced at the regular glock ones are.
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Old 10-28-2008, 08:36   #117
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I'd take a g20/21 frame. I have no interest in any others myself. Hope to see them soon.
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Old 10-28-2008, 08:37   #118
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I meant no offence. Simply trying to indicate we will not be able to accommodate everyone. I can accept that fact.

You are positively sold on "no FG", but so were several others involved with this project. I tried to explain that this frame circumference is greatly reduced. It allows a completely different grip and the FG do not interfere. Come out to the Tulsa Show in Nov, SAR Show in Dec (Phoenix), SHOT Show in Jan (Orlando) and see for yourself.
You are correct sir. So much against FG's that I only own 1 - 3rd Gen Fullsize GLOCK and that is a G35 with the FGs removed. Believe me, I own many GLOCKs, but have to settle for 2nd Gen guns. Gaston can't sell me on FG's, so I doubt you will. BHP's, 1911's, Berettas, Rugers, S&W's, M&P's, XD's, Sigs - none of them have FG's, why would you want to add them is beyond me. I don't see anybody adding FG's to GLOCKs, only taking them off.

As I learn to do frame mods myself, I plan to get some more 3rd Gen Guns. Like I said, I hope you sell tons of these so I can get some factory frames at a reasonable price.

Good Luck in your endeavor!
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Old 10-28-2008, 08:55   #119
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Guys, if you want to ask questions or post comments in the Product Showcase forum, you need to be polite and exercise some tact. As is usually the case, the warning is unnecessary for most of you. Eric
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Old 10-28-2008, 09:52   #120
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Pretty cool IMHO.
And FWIW, it seems like those with a FG "issue" are in a pretty small minority.
Nice job JR & Co.!
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