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Old 06-02-2010, 18:44   #1
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What do you guys think of this rifle from Classic for the price?

Scroll down a bit on the classic site to see this rifle.

http://www.classicarms.us/

Here's the first sentence in the description:
THIS NEW AR-15 SEMI-AUTO, .223 CALIBER RIFLE IS MADE RIGHT HERE IN N.C. BY A NEW MANUFACTURER CALLED ROCKY POINT GUNS.

It's $699.95
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Old 06-02-2010, 19:02   #2
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Now are they claiming that they tool and machine all the parts themselves or are they just a company that buys the parts from an AR parts manufacturer, stamps their name on the reciever and call it their product?

With the flooded AR market their really is no benefit from experimenting on a new traditional AR setup. There are so many tried and true AR brands already out there for roughly the same price.

Heck a S&W M&P15 is just $150 to $200 bucks more and its already arguably a mid level AR.

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Old 06-02-2010, 20:31   #3
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Heck a S&W M&P15 is just $150 to $200 bucks more and its already arguably a mid level AR.
not to mention CDNN were offering those with 15 magazines
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Old 06-02-2010, 21:19   #4
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Now are they claiming that they tool and machine all the parts themselves or are they just a company that buys the parts from an AR parts manufacturer, stamps their name on the reciever and call it their product?.......
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MADE RIGHT HERE IN N.C. BY A NEW MANUFACTURER CALLED ROCKY POINT GUNS
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Old 06-03-2010, 03:26   #5
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reading their specs, its no better than a DPMS or oly...
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:38   #6
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reading their specs, its no better than a DPMS or oly...
So in other words its one of the best at half the price?
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Old 06-03-2010, 05:07   #7
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Everyone gets their start somewhere. I took a chance and deviated from 'the big boys' and bought an AR made by a North Carolina-based company. I have been pleased with it.
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Old 06-03-2010, 05:56   #8
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So in other words its one of the best at half the price?

if your purpose for buying a black rifle is dragging it out at Thanksgiving to scare your sister-in-law, then yes.
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Old 06-03-2010, 06:32   #9
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You could buy a stripped lower and a Del-ton kit with carrying handle for less and at least have a name someone would recognize.
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Old 06-03-2010, 06:39   #10
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Now are they claiming that they tool and machine all the parts themselves or are they just a company that buys the parts from an AR parts manufacturer, stamps their name on the reciever and call it their product?
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THIS NEW AR-15 SEMI-AUTO, .223 CALIBER RIFLE IS MADE RIGHT HERE IN N.C. BY A NEW MANUFACTURER CALLED ROCKY POINT GUNS. WE HAVE KNOWN THESE GUYS FOR YEARS AND THEY ARE VERY METICULOUS AND DETERMINED TO PUT OUT A GOOD PRODUCT. IN MY OPINION THEY HAVE. THESE RIFLES ARE ASSEMBLED IN A STATE OF THE ART FACILITY AND PRECISION ALIGNED FOR THE TIGHTEST OF TOLERANCES. WE ARE EXTREMELY IMPRESSED WITH THIS RIFLE, AND YOU WILL BE TOO. BEST OF ALL THIS RIFLE INCORPORATES TONS OF HIGH END FEATURES AT A BARGAIN BASEMENT PRICE.......
From the word "Assembled" I'd say they are just throwing kits onto stripped lowers that have their name engraved on them. With them being in NC and Del-Ton also being in NC I would bet they just buy kits from Del-Ton in bulk and assemble AR's.

A quick look at Google Maps shows Rocky Point, NC is 43 miles from the home of Del-Ton in Elizabethtown, NC
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:34   #11
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For another $100.00
http://www.spikestactical.com/z/inde...roducts_id=387
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Old 06-03-2010, 10:42   #12
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I suspect Vafish’s comments are spot on.
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I have heard that alot of AR companies dont have the multi-million dollar tooling machines to "manufacture" an AR but lots of them do have the engraving equipment to mark bulk purchased blank parts with their company logo.

I wish I knew the names of the companies that actually make and sell their own receivers to other firearms companies for resale?
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I have heard that alot of AR companies dont have the multi-million dollar tooling machines to "manufacture" an AR but lots of them do have the engraving equipment to mark bulk purchased blank parts with their company logo.

I wish I knew the names of the companies that actually make and sell their own receivers to other firearms companies for resale?

Well, no one really. There are four manufacturers (I think) that make all AR lowers. Each company may have higher or lower standards than others, but there really isn't much difference between, unless you go Vulcan/Hesse.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=12&t=318113
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id look around, i got a delton ftf for 600
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Old 06-03-2010, 22:35   #16
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Ah ha, I knew it was something like that.

So these are the basic top 4 AR receiver manufactuers that make most of the top AR receivers.

LMT = LMT, Lauer(old), DS Arms, PWA, Eagle, Knights Armament, Barrett, Bushmaster (?)
CMT = Stag, RRA, High Standard, Noveske (old), Century (current), Global Tactical, CLE, S&W, MGI (1st batch), Wilson Tactical, (some?) Colt, Ratworx
LAR = Grizzly, Bushmaster (L Prefix), Ameetech, (?)DPMS, CMMG, Double Star, Fulton, Spike's Tactical, Noveske (new)
MMS = Mega, Gunsmoke, Dalphon, POF (forged), Alexander Arms, Stinger, Spike's Tactical(old)
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From the word "Assembled" I'd say they are just throwing kits onto stripped lowers that have their name engraved on them.
Thanks, I'm glad you pointed that out. I'm sure, when reading the description, my eyes read the word "assembled". But my brain likely interpreted it as 'manufactured'.

Your assessment is most certainly accurate.
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Thanks, I'm glad you pointed that out. I'm sure, when reading the description, my eyes read the word "assembled". But my brain likely interpreted it as 'manufactured'.

Your assessment is most certainly accurate.

Oh and a "State of the Art Facility" is the NC way of saying they have flush toilets and air conditioning.

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Oh and a "State of the Art Facility" is the NC way of saying they have flush toilets and air conditioning.

*Maybe* air conditioning.
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THIS NEW AR-15 SEMI-AUTO, .223 CALIBER RIFLE IS MADE RIGHT HERE IN N.C. BY A NEW MANUFACTURER CALLED ROCKY POINT GUNS. WE HAVE KNOWN THESE GUYS FOR YEARS AND THEY ARE VERY METICULOUS AND DETERMINED TO PUT OUT A GOOD PRODUCT. IN MY OPINION THEY HAVE. THESE RIFLES ARE ASSEMBLED IN A STATE OF THE ART FACILITY AND PRECISION ALIGNED FOR THE TIGHTEST OF TOLERANCES. WE ARE EXTREMELY IMPRESSED WITH THIS RIFLE, AND YOU WILL BE TOO. BEST OF ALL THIS RIFLE INCORPORATES TONS OF HIGH END FEATURES AT A BARGAIN BASEMENT PRICE.


Where are the high end features?
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