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Old 03-28-2009, 11:24   #21
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Next we'll hear that Obama will promote a bill allowing Catholics to buy condoms - it just never ends
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Old 03-28-2009, 11:32   #22
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Next we'll hear that Obama will promote a bill allowing Catholics to buy condoms - it just never ends
They give them out in public school, who knows if they will pass a law forcing ALL school, even private and catholic schools to hand out condoms.
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Old 04-01-2009, 14:17   #23
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I had to edit my entire post in order not to force this thread into IBTL mode... so here's what I'll say instead:


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Old 05-30-2010, 07:40   #24
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Holy misleading title batman.

I hate the thought of abortions, and would never ever advocate one. However, who am I to tell some woman I do not know that she should not have an abortion? It simply isn't my place, nor is it yours. People need to pay more attention to their own lives, and stop trying to mandate what other people do.
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But I bet he stops all federal funding that the hospitals have been receiving if they don't perform abortions.
Maybe, and rightfully so IMHO. Religion has no place in medical practice unless it is the PATIENT'S wish.
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Old 06-05-2010, 14:53   #26
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Holy misleading title batman.

I hate the thought of abortions, and would never ever advocate one. However, who am I to tell some woman I do not know that she should not have an abortion? It simply isn't my place, nor is it yours. People need to pay more attention to their own lives, and stop trying to mandate what other people do.

I agree with you to a point, until it comes to causing unnecessary pain or anguish. When a fetus can feel pain and or is sentient, it should not legally be allowed to abort it IMHO. Alternatively, we could do off of brain activity, like we do when declaring someone dead, which would be consistent.
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Old 06-07-2010, 11:20   #27
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I think Obama is the product of a Botched Abortion !!!
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Old 06-08-2010, 08:26   #28
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As we progress as a society, we should legalize abortion up to the age of consent. Who am I to tell a woman that she can't have her unruly middle school children put down? We need to stop telling other people how to live their lives.
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Old 06-08-2010, 22:27   #29
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Is it difficult for you to differentiate between an organism that cannot live without the mother, and one that can?

I am pretty sure I first heard that "argument" 25+ years ago in high school debate class.

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Old 07-06-2010, 14:58   #30
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Maybe, and rightfully so IMHO. Religion has no place in medical practice unless it is the PATIENT'S wish.
BigJ ..I second that motion , unless the patient wishes so. Im pro-choice only because if im not its the government telling people what they can and cant do with their bodies, whats next? Personally I would never be involved in an abortion no matter what.Thank GOD Ive never been even close to a situation like that...
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Old 11-17-2011, 06:03   #31
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No matter how you feel about using abortions as a method of birth control, here is an issue that needs to be addressed.

There are times when a pregnancy has complications, and it has now become dangerous for the mother to continue carrying this particular fetus. Unfortunately, sometimes the fetus has such deformations, that it will most likely not survive, and even if it does, not for long, or in a condition that is horrendous.

What if a pregnant woman is now in a crisis where it's either remove the fetus, or lose them both for sure? Should a hospital just say, "sorry, it's the Lords' will", and refuse to perform this procedure to save the life of the mother?

I for one don't think they should have to perform this procedure for the purpose of birth control, but it's when they refuse to do so in these circumstances that it gets dicey. Especially if they want public money.

The father of a good friend of mine is an ob/gyn and he once said he would refuse to abort no matter what stating "it's God's will" whether she lives through the delivery or not. This is dangerous ground. Do we really want this kind of thing to be allowed?
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Old 11-17-2011, 14:07   #32
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No matter how you feel about using abortions as a method of birth control, here is an issue that needs to be addressed.

There are times when a pregnancy has complications, and it has now become dangerous for the mother to continue carrying this particular fetus. Unfortunately, sometimes the fetus has such deformations, that it will most likely not survive, and even if it does, not for long, or in a condition that is horrendous.

What if a pregnant woman is now in a crisis where it's either remove the fetus, or lose them both for sure? Should a hospital just say, "sorry, it's the Lords' will", and refuse to perform this procedure to save the life of the mother?

I for one don't think they should have to perform this procedure for the purpose of birth control, but it's when they refuse to do so in these circumstances that it gets dicey. Especially if they want public money.

The father of a good friend of mine is an ob/gyn and he once said he would refuse to abort no matter what stating "it's God's will" whether she lives through the delivery or not. This is dangerous ground. Do we really want this kind of thing to be allowed?
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Old 11-17-2011, 20:31   #33
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Wow thread resurrection...
I never come in this subforum.

I saw what was to me, a "new post". I didn't look at the date until after I responded.

Oh well.
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Old 12-07-2011, 15:20   #34
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The father of a good friend of mine is an ob/gyn and he once said he would refuse to abort no matter what stating "it's God's will" whether she lives through the delivery or not. This is dangerous ground. Do we really want this kind of thing to be allowed?
If it's "God's will" why do we even bother having hospitals?
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Old 12-07-2011, 18:08   #35
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Old 12-07-2011, 20:12   #36
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If it's "God's will" why do we even bother having hospitals?
Or restaurants.
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Old 12-08-2011, 15:55   #37
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Your telling me, My first post on this thread was in Nov 2008.

I was only on GT for a month and a half, and Obama was not even sworn in yet.

My second post talked about the possibility forcing Catholic schools to give out condoms. That didn't happen yet, but under Obamacare Catholic hospitals are being forced to give out condoms and other contraceptives starting in Jan 2013.

Here is a news story from a few days ago.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...lic-hospitals/

Its seems Obama might make an exceptions. Don't want to loose those Catholic votes with the 2012 election around the corner.
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Old 12-25-2011, 02:50   #38
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Considering that the vast majority of Catholics are Democrats and vote to support abortion, this thread is amusing.
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Old 12-25-2011, 03:26   #39
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Considering that the vast majority of Catholics are Democrats and vote to support abortion, this thread is amusing.
I agree with you there. It seems with our system everyone has to continually compromise. Darn our diverse country!
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