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Old 01-23-2009, 15:47   #1
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NWUs

They're out - thoughts? I've picked up mine already, and I'm fond of them. Finally, a uniform that you can do "work" in, and still be presentable without ironing, starching, and creases.

Please, before someone brings up "'ey, why do you need camouflage on a ship?", or "What will happen if someone falls overboard - how will you see them?, consider this - The pattern is designed to hide common shipboard stains - such as haze gray paint, and dark oils/greases. Hence, the color pattern of deck gray, haze gray, navy blue and black.

Additionally, anyone falling overboard now whilst wearing coveralls (the standard underway uniform) isn't going to be any more visible.

Here's me modeling, minus my face to provide emphasis on the uniform.
<a href="http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e155/supadane/?action=view&current=nwu.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e155/supadane/nwu.jpg" border="0" alt="NWU"></a>
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Old 01-24-2009, 22:09   #2
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I think they look great... all the new uniforms look good! In fact, I'm jealous lol. I wish we'd had those uniforms when I was in, especially the cammies.
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Old 01-25-2009, 06:25   #3
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I don't see how they can possibly be worse than the utilities, so its a step in the right direction. The roll out plans seems to be forever though so I will be glad when I can actually try a set. I am less than thrilled that they have gone with the 'only to work and back and no stops unless there is an emergency' route. The new utilities were supposed to be more presentable than the dungarees so you could wear them more places. And initially the NWU was supposed to be able to be worn off base as well. But someone chickened out I guess. I hope the wear well though.
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Old 01-27-2009, 06:25   #4
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I am in the IRR now, so I don't have to wear any uniform any more. Having said that, I think these cammies are hideous, as are the new enlisted uniforms. As an officer I would be exempt from both (my billets being attached to USMC, I would wear their cammies) which is fine by me. As for the officers' new khaki coat, it's OK, but I think the Navy is just jumping on the new uniform bandwagon because everyone else is.
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Old 01-29-2009, 16:47   #5
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I agree its jumping on the bandwagon. I think everyone should wear the same pattern/style camo working uniform with branch specific ranks and patches. That would save a huge amount of money for the military and the serviceman. We wouldn't need three colors of boots and five patterns. The dress uniform is where a branch can distinguish itself and show its heritage. But the NWU seem much better to me than the current utility uniform. The utilities have a crap life span and are far too fragile. I will be glad to be rid of them if the new ones stand up to the abuse. The no ironing is also a great seller to me.

I've also always though that the Navy's caste system of seperating the chiefs and officers from the 'regular' enlisted folks was stupid and a hold over from a time better forgotten. No other branch does this in a working uniform and there is good reason for that. Another thing I have noticed are that the young guys are much more into the NWU than the guys who have been around a while, which is good. I am a middle guy and while I can see both sides if it really helps the morale, and so far it has with my guys, its a good thing.

I've worn almost all the current generation of working uniforms, BDU/DCU, ACU, MARPAT and even the NSW 'modifed how you want ones' and like the fit and durabilit of the MARPATs the best. I don't understand why the Navy spent so much time and money testing the NWU just to adopt a uniform of the same cut and pattern as the Marines in a different color, but I am glad they did. Time will tell how it works out but this might be the first new uniform I actually like better than what it replaced.
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Old 01-29-2009, 18:47   #6
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Well, I'm currently busting my ass to go to Great Lakes in August. If I end up with some of those I'll report back.
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Old 01-30-2009, 00:52   #7
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Please, before someone brings up "'ey, why do you need camouflage on a ship?", or "What will happen if someone falls overboard - how will you see them?, consider this - The pattern is designed to hide common shipboard stains - such as haze gray paint, and dark oils/greases. Hence, the color pattern of deck gray, haze gray, navy blue and black.
Thanks for pointing that out. I can't count how many times I've heard someone spouting off about MOB scenarios- you're just as ****ed with coveralls. Though I've seen plenty of BMSNs whose entire coveralls turn into one big gray stain, NWUs won't do anything to hide that.

That said, there's plenty to gripe about. I think that making the wear policy basically the same as utilities is ridiculous, we should be able to wear it off base. On top of that, the gold name tape contrast is just too much for me (the E's silver look good though).

Does anyone know if VBSS teams are using this on boardings now? Makes more sense than coveralls or desert cammies.
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Old 01-30-2009, 07:00   #8
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So this is just the new underway/ship only uniform? I may possibly be re-upping in the reserve as an MAA. Are they sticking to the Woodland or going with these? The whole, can't wear the uniform out in public rule always made no sense to me... it is a uniform. When I was stationed in Yoko. on the Kitty Hawk we couldn't wear anything other than dungarees/dress unidorm off the ship... not even to the base chow hall. I do think the BDU's are great for ship work. When I was an AO we could wear BDU's underway and they definitly last longer than any other uniform. And at least the will be some uniformity now. We would wear whatever we could get... woodland, 3 color desert, 6 color desert, O.D. greens... as long as we had on a red shirt it didn't matter what stlye BDU's you had.

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Old 01-30-2009, 07:01   #9
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I like the idea of having a single, multi-service pattern. We had that for years with the old woodland cammo. It worked just fine for what was needed. I understand why the Corps went with the MARPAT, which I really like, but I did not particularly 'agree' with putting a patent on their digital pattern, precluding everyone else from using them. But, I do NOT like the NWU.
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So this is just the new underway/ship only uniform? I may possibly be re-upping in the reserve as an MAA. Are they sticking to the Woodland or going with these?
It's for wear on ships and at shore installations (steel toed boots being the only difference- mando on ships of course). I don't know the latest decision on what the MAs will wear, I just know there's been a lot of debate about that specifically. They're now testing woodland/desert versions of the NWU, which would probably be what the gate MAs would end up wearing.

I totally agree with the lunacy of a patent on MARPAT. Think how much cheaper it would be to reprint MARPAT in blue, as opposed to designing NWU, then printing it in woodland/desert. God, talk about re-designing the wheel.
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Well, I'm currently busting my ass to go to Great Lakes in August. If I end up with some of those I'll report back.
August is a fine month to go to Great Lakes...
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Old 01-30-2009, 21:56   #12
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August is a fine month to go to Great Lakes...
I left for boot on July 28th 1997 and it was pretty chilly for pass and review on October 3rd wearing dress whites. You'll miss the snow, which that alone is worth leaving in the summer. I know guys that were there in the winter and every night having to wake up for 2 hrs of snow shoveling duty.... F that!
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It's for wear on ships and at shore installations (steel toed boots being the only difference- mando on ships of course). I don't know the latest decision on what the MAs will wear, I just know there's been a lot of debate about that specifically. They're now testing woodland/desert versions of the NWU, which would probably be what the gate MAs would end up wearing.

I totally agree with the lunacy of a patent on MARPAT. Think how much cheaper it would be to reprint MARPAT in blue, as opposed to designing NWU, then printing it in woodland/desert. God, talk about re-designing the wheel.
Yeah, it would only make sense for the Ma's to go with the desert or woodland. They need to do something with the boots and go to a weatherproof steeltoed fabric. It was great not having to shine my boots in the guard. Another thing I liked about the ACU's when I was in the Army Nat'l guard was one uniform for every season/any deployment. I agree on the MARPAT, Why change everything? It's already there and paid for by the Navy anyhow.

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I was at Great Lakes in the winter, graduating in March. I was cold, snowy, and gray. It sucked.
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I totally agree with the lunacy of a patent on MARPAT. Think how much cheaper it would be to reprint MARPAT in blue, as opposed to designing NWU, then printing it in woodland/desert. God, talk about re-designing the wheel.

Absolutely - our new NWU is not a far shot off of the current MARPAT uniform. Pointed collars vs rounded, non-slanted pockets, and... that's about it. Swap the EGA for the ACE and it's pretty identical.

Other than that - from what I've seen of the sailors here on NOB, the few that I have seen wearing the NWU have been pretty sharp, with one exception. Overall, the uniform presents a far more military appearance than the utilities.
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from what I've seen of the sailors here on NOB, the few that I have seen wearing the NWU have been pretty sharp, with one exception. Overall, the uniform presents a far more military appearance than the utilities.
That's good. From everything I've heard, the junior sailors seem to be pretty pleased with the NWU. A little warrior ethos and pride in the service never hurt anyone.
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August is a fine month to go to Great Lakes...

That's why I'm trying to go then. Great Lakes in late summer/early fall, then off to Meridian hopefully after the worst of the humidity has passed.

I'm looking at SK or PN for the most part.
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I'm looking at SK or PN for the most part.
That's funny, I had you pegged as more of a MA or Intel-type. SK sets you up OK for the outside I guess. I'd recommend against PN. Just MHO.
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Some of my best friends were PNs and YNs. All it took was seeing one Cheif piss off a YN (I think...maybe he was a PN), and *poof*...his pay and records were all jacked up for three months. THAT is when I saw who had the power, and thus, who would become my friends. In the Army Rangers, they call it the E4 Mafia...int he Navy, the admin mafia.
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Wouldn't want to be a YN, SK, PS, or MA. IS wouldn't be too bad, I suppose.

Off the topic of the new uniform, what interests you about SK or PS?
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