I am still searching for the perfect holster and at $60+ a pop I don't want to experiment to much. I have a couple of models in mind, but one think I keep coming back to is the single or double clip debate. I know the Kahr is small, but does the single clip offset holster give enough support, or do I need to go with a double clip?
Single clip I was thinking of:
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I'm also looking at holsters for my new PM9. With my XD9 subcompact I carried in both a Comp-Tac CTAC (a double-clip holster) and the basic, single-clip Don Hume IWB. I never felt like I didn't have enough support with the Don Hume and it's just so much more convenient to put on and take off that I'm considering just getting something basic like the Hume for my PM9. The double clip models just spread out across your side so much..that kind of bothers me sometimes.
I don't think the PM9 needs two clips. I have a IWB with an offset single clip (much like the two shown). It was custom made by Little Bear holsters, though I also looked at ones similar to the two shown (I like the Wild Bill's model for the leather, although the kydex one ...Grandfather Oak?... is thinner). I also wanted a tuckable one (which eliminated Wild Bill's).
I've been searching for a holster for my new PM9 too. Given its size/weight I think a two clip holster is overkill. Since RM holsters doesn't make one for the PM9 I've ordered this one from JS Holsters. I'll let you know how it works out.
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Alintak, I looked on the little bear site and really liked was I saw, but he did not have any Kahrs listed as guns he makes holsters for. Did you have to call and have something special set up or is it a generic small gun holster? I would love to see a picture of it if you have one.
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Alintak, I looked on the little bear site and really liked was I saw, but he did not have any Kahrs listed as guns he makes holsters for. Did you have to call and have something special set up or is it a generic small gun holster? I would love to see a picture of it if you have one.
I'll try to get a picture posted. I think mine was the first PM9 he did (he did get one of the blue pistols, so the holster is molded to the PM9). He created a custom IWB and mag holder for me in elephant skin. Turned out really nice! He also spent time with me going over designs, materials, etc. Very positive experience, and I got a custom holster in two weeks. Give Dave a call.
Part of the design requirements were an offset clip to minimize thickness, tuckable, room to grab the grip completely and the ability to adjust the cant. The clip is replacable, if you prefer the standard clip (as shown on the mag holder) or a velcro clip (my intent as soon as I get an appropriate belt).
I rotated the clip on the mag holder so you can see that Dave even put the elephant on that! Very nice work.
I'll try to get a picture posted. I think mine was the first PM9 he did (he did get one of the blue pistols, so the holster is molded to the PM9). He created a custom IWB and mag holder for me in elephant skin. Turned out really nice! He also spent time with me going over designs, materials, etc. Very positive experience, and I got a custom holster in two weeks. Give Dave a call.
Thanks for the picture. It looks great. I sent Dave an e-mail and have decided to have one made.
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I carry my CW9 in a single-clip FIST holster. It does move around a little bit and I sometimes have to re-set the cant. I am sure this would not be an issue with a double-clip like an M-Tac or a Crossbreed.
I have a Crossbreed for my larger pistol and it's stable as a rock and very comfortable but it's such a PITA to put on and remove that I don't ever use it. I don't think I'd use it unless I really had a strong feeling that I needed to be carrying a pistol with 17 rounds loaded for some reason... Bad part of town, etc...
I faced that issue as well, but used some locktite (blue) on the screw threads after I figured out the angle that I liked, which helped a great deal.
No, what I mean is, the holster including the clip rotates. In other words, the single clip is not enough to keep the holster on camber with the belt.
My holster is not "cantable", it's a fixed cant. But you can rotate the thing probably +/- 15 degrees on the belt. I think this is #1 a weakness of the J-hook idea (C-clip would be a little better, full loop around the belt would probably nearly completely fix this), and #2 a weakness you would likely have with nearly any single-clip holster since the amount of clip area that is in contact with the belt is just too narrow to have enough leverage to keep the holster straight up.
Small price to pay for a holster that is a cinch to get on and off, super comfortable and extremely concealable IMHO. The Crossbreed is just as good (more comfortable, more stable, just as concealable) when it is on there but it takes about 10x the amount of time to put it on and is very difficult to remove. I can put the FIST holster on and off without even loosening my belt. This is a great benefit for those of us who have to sometimes go into places where you can't carry.
I just got off of the phone with Dave at Little Bear. He is a great guy to deal with and really made me feel comfortable with ordering a custom holster. He went over every possible design detail with me. We ended up B.S.ing for 45 minutes.
I went with a horse leather body and black stingray accents at the top with a matching mag holder.
As soon as I get it in I will post some pictures.
Thanks for the great lead alnitak!!!
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No, what I mean is, the holster including the clip rotates. In other words, the single clip is not enough to keep the holster on camber with the belt.
My holster is not "cantable", it's a fixed cant. But you can rotate the thing probably +/- 15 degrees on the belt. I think this is #1 a weakness of the J-hook idea (C-clip would be a little better, full loop around the belt would probably nearly completely fix this), and #2 a weakness you would likely have with nearly any single-clip holster since the amount of clip area that is in contact with the belt is just too narrow to have enough leverage to keep the holster straight up.
Small price to pay for a holster that is a cinch to get on and off, super comfortable and extremely concealable IMHO. The Crossbreed is just as good (more comfortable, more stable, just as concealable) when it is on there but it takes about 10x the amount of time to put it on and is very difficult to remove. I can put the FIST holster on and off without even loosening my belt. This is a great benefit for those of us who have to sometimes go into places where you can't carry.
Now I understand. Yes, I have some of the same problems with the J clip. As you said, a C clip would probably be better. I intent to move to a V clip once I get an appropriate belt. Seems to be the best of all worlds. And I do think that two clips is overkill for such a small gun as the PM9.
Jopela, glad it worked out for you. Sounds like your experience with Dave parallels mine. Good luck with your new holster. Be sure to post pics.
Single clip - probably easier to get on and off if you need to do this a lot.
Double clip - harder to put on, but really stays put at the same cant no matter what you might be doing.
I love my crossbreed supertuck. It is a double clip, very comfortable, and perfect for my PM45. It is not hard to put on while getting dressed, and I forget I'm wearing it most days. However, when I need to take it off and put it on in the car it is a pain.
All of the options listed so far are very nice holsters. Good luck finding the one that's right for you!
Also, I found and ordered this one (below) last night. I plan to use this for PM9 (I have a KP3833 on order, and it may fit that as well. Because of the adjustable end, it should be able to accommodate a wide range of firearms.
Its the Invisible Agent on the Desantis sight--they make two models--one with a clip and one with a loop. Very unimposing. It was only $20, I don't know how comfortable or secure it is (I guess not very), but I will carry in a holster only infrequently, so hopefully it will work. If it does, I will take a look at the Mitch Rosen's (under new products). OTOH, I would prefer nylon for the softness, but I haven't found one the I liked yet.
Everything I have read says its an awful lot of comfort too.....
looks like room for an extra clip on the minituck as well......
I do believe thats the route I am taking with my PM9.
looks like room for an extra clip on the minituck as well......
Why would it need three clips?
Bronson
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Also, I found and ordered this one (below) last night. I plan to use this for PM9 (I have a KP3833 on order, and it may fit that as well. Because of the adjustable end, it should be able to accommodate a wide range of firearms.
Its the Invisible Agent on the Desantis sight--they make two models--one with a clip and one with a loop. Very unimposing. It was only $20, I don't know how comfortable or secure it is (I guess not very), but I will carry in a holster only infrequently, so hopefully it will work. If it does, I will take a look at the Mitch Rosen's (under new products). OTOH, I would prefer nylon for the softness, but I haven't found one the I liked yet.
That thing needs a trigger guard, No??? I would want one with the PM9 at least...
I thought they were talking about IWB holsters that would carry an additional magazine (clip). Get it? Hahaha
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