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Carry concealed on military base??????

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#1 ·
If visiting or picking up someone on a military base.In a state that accepts your ccw.What do you do?Surrender carry gun to security at main gate?Store gun unloaded and locked in a case?
 
#2 ·
Leave it at home or leave it in the trunk and drive to the security office to ask: do not attempt to drive into the gate with a firearm in your vehicle.

The security office is usually accessible without entering the base proper and you can enter and ask (unarmed).

Security gate personnel do not have the resources to secure your firearm and by that point you are on base and it can get more complicated.
 
#7 ·
It is strictly up to the commanding officer of the base, they set the procedures and guidelines.

Call ahead and ask. Heed what they say for it is a felony to do otherwise.
 
#10 ·
Lots of dead soldiers on Ft Hood because THEY are not even allowed to carry.
This is a little inflammatory: any CONUS base I've ever been on during my tour didn't allow unrestricted carry: only security personnel and those who've taken the measures to be authorized in advance bring their personal firearms on base directly to an armory for storage, and vice versa.
 
#14 · (Edited)
That is what I did at Tobyhanna. They wanted me to approach with my pistol cleared and not in my hands. Just be sure to call ahead and get solid info.
You carried a weapon on Depot property? Then you're either associated with Depot Security, or some other branch of the U.S. Military that allows you to go armed.

Civilian weapons on Tobyhanna Army Depot property are strictly forbidden.

http://www.tobyhanna.army.mil/about/visitor.html

Furthermore, at Fort Indiantown Gap you and your gun wouldn't get past the Main Gate. Since 9/11 there are no civilian weapons on any Pennsylvania military base that I know of.
 
#16 ·
Depends on the base. I'm stationed in ND and you can drive on base with a pistol but you CANNOT conceal carry! you must have the gun stored in the furthermost rear compartment of the vehicle, unloaded, and ammo stored in a different compartment of your vehicle. also ammo cannot be in the magazine when stored.

every base is different tho. i go hunting almost every day after work and have my shotgun in my vehicle at all times. its in plain view of security forces when going through the gate and never had a problem.

best bet it don't even attempt to carry on base before you know the rules unless you want an M4 pressed against your skull and face in the mud!!!

what base do you plan on visiting?
 
#17 ·
You carried a weapon on Depot property? Then you're either associated with Depot Security, or some other branch of the U.S. Military that allows you to go armed.

Civilian weapons on Tobyhanna Army Depot property are strictly forbidden.

http://www.tobyhanna.army.mil/about/visitor.html

Furthermore, at Fort Indiantown Gap you and your gun wouldn't get past the Main Gate. Since 9/11 there are no civilian weapons on any Pennsylvania military base that I know of.
I checked my pistol in a locker at the gate. They wanted me to approach with the pistol already cleared and sitting on the seat. I received a property receipt and just picked my pistol up on the way out, 2-3 times a week for 6 years.

My advice is to call ahead and get your information direct from the base.
 
#18 ·
This is a little inflammatory: any CONUS base I've ever been on during my tour didn't allow unrestricted carry: only security personnel and those who've taken the measures to be authorized in advance bring their personal firearms on base directly to an armory for storage, and vice versa.
It's NOT in the least inflammatory. I had friends that were MURDERED because they could not carry to defend themselves. I KNOW it's that way on evey CONUS base, and THE RULE NEEDS TO BE CHANGED! Don't EVEN try and go there.

I was never allowed to carry unless tending the deployment armory. ALL other times, as with the case of my murdered friends, I WAS NOT allowed to carry for my own protection.
 
#19 · (Edited)
Fedral law does not recognize your right to carry on Federal Property. Unload and place in a carry case or trunk. Some bases and or Commanders have different -more restrictive rules!:whistling:
That is correct. The VA Hospital here in Vermont doesn't allow weapons at all.
 
#21 ·
Ft. Sam Houston in San Antonio has no firearms signs. If you live in town I guess it is not too bad, but if you come from out of town, as many do, you either drive down unarmed, or break the law to visit your relative's grave.
Like I said elsewhere, I wonder how many armed and homicidal maniacs would obey such a sign?
 
#22 ·
I think the point is that your state permit for concealed carry is not valid on federal property. It is not just military installations. This is an area you do not want to misinterpret.

I work for the Army and I find the rules very confusing. All my weapons are registered on post and the acceptable transportation methods are not easy to understand when one just looks at the local regulations.

I keep it simple by not carrying or transporting firearms on post. When I travel, I will carry a concealed handgun, but if my destination includes a military installation, I leave the gun home.

Depending on the installation you visit, the response to discovering a weapon will vary a great deal. The response will even vary depending on the sensitivity of the facility you are near.

As to allowing soldiers to carry around post, it is a matter best left up to the commands. The soldiers are often young and wild. I would not want all the junior soldiers to be armed, but there may be a place for some. Again, the command will make the decision.
 
#23 ·
This is a little inflammatory: any CONUS base I've ever been on during my tour didn't allow unrestricted carry: only security personnel and those who've taken the measures to be authorized in advance bring their personal firearms on base directly to an armory for storage, and vice versa.
Hey PettyOfficer! You must be ex-USN like me. I was an STG2.
 
#24 ·
This is a little inflammatory: any CONUS base I've ever been on during my tour didn't allow unrestricted carry: only security personnel and those who've taken the measures to be authorized in advance bring their personal firearms on base directly to an armory for storage, and vice versa.
I don't think he was trying to be inflammatory. My sense is he was just pointing out that if even the regular troops can't be armed then Joe Civilian Blow better not even show up at the gate with something.
 
#26 ·
Don't go on the base without prior authorization.

You may be just flat out refused, in which case you can wait at the gate for your friend. You may be advised to call the Provost Marshall's office or SP/MP's and they will accomodate you. If you are in the mil you may have better luck than being a civilian.

The base is (usually) a Federal installation and falls under the Title 18 code...your local permit means nothing.